From Usenet Big-8 Management Board
From: Usenet Big-8 Management Board <>
Subject: Moderator Vacancy Investigation:
Followup-To: news.groups.proposals
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2023 10:15:17 EDT
Organization: Usenet Big-8 Management Board
Message-ID: <>
Archive-Name: soc.history.war

This is a formal Moderator Vacancy Investigation (MVI), begun because 
the moderated newsgroup is not functioning, 
and may have been abandoned by its moderator. This investigation will 
attempt to verify the reasons for non-function, and may result in the 
removal of the group or the selection and installation of a new 
moderator. In practice, the Big-8 Management Board considers the third 
alternative--changing the status of the group from moderated to 
unmoderated--as likely to cause more harm than good.

The Big-8 Management Board has been approached by "Bixby" 
<>, who has informed us that the moderation for is not functioning. They have also informed 
us that they used to be a participant in the group, posting at the time 
under their earlier alias of "Comrade Yum Yum". Bixby has volunteered to 
take over moderation duties for the group, if no reason exists for them 
not to do so.

Bixby has also communicated the following about their choice of alias:
    It is an alias, and the fact it is an alias should be known.

    Each major on-line project I am involved in has its own alias, as a
    way to maintain my personal privacy on-line.

    My identity is not a secret, and will be disclosed on request to any 
    group member or the board, but when posting to systems which can be
    automatically scanned, an alias is prudent for privacy.

    (The origin is "Horace E. Bixby", the Mississippi boat pilot who
    taught Samuel Clemens.)

Followups to this post have been set to news.groups.proposals, to ensure 
that any resulting discussion can be followed in one place.


Attempts to post to the group currently result in a bounce message from 
the ISC moderation relay.

The most recent moderator, Stephen Graham, posted to the group on 7th 
June 2017 to report that the group's moderation platform,, 
had suffered a catastrophic failure (Message-ID: <epqo2qFak6qU1>). was never restored to service, and it 
appears that no alternative moderation system was ever put in place. 
Stephen Graham posted a followup on 26th October 2017 (Message-ID: 
<>) to say "As you can tell, 
has not been restored to service. At this point, I expect most former 
readers have found alternative fora."

The group has been dormant since then, apart from a single post in 2019 
that may not have been officially approved.

It therefore appears that no alternative moderation system was ever set 
up, and that the moderator abandoned the group at this point without 
appointing a successor.

Sadly, we have discovered that Stephen Graham died soon afterwards, in 
2019. All of us thank Mr. Graham for generously volunteering his time as 
a group moderator, and extend our condolences to all who knew him.

Because of this unfortunate news, it seems clear that a vacancy exists 
and that a new moderator could be appointed.

The Big-8 Management Board is particularly keen to solicit input from 
former participants in, as the Board 
members are unfamiliar with the community and are not well placed to 
judge whether a prospective moderator would be a good fit. To this end, 
this MVI has been crossposted to soc.history.war.misc and
war-two. These groups have recently been used by some of the people who 
previously posted in, which will allow the 
remaining community to give their views on the appointment of a new 

NEWSGROUPS LINE: History & events of World War Two 

HISTORY OF THE GROUP: was proposed by Joel Furr 
<> in early 1994, along with soc.history.war.misc. passed its vote 181:17 on 19 April 1994.


The  charter of  Discussion of  the
era  1939-1945 in particular, but ranging as far back as 1918 and
as  far forward as the 1950's for discussion of events leading to
the  War and post-war events such as the occupation of Japan  and
Germany.   The  discussion will be limited to social,  political,
military,  economic,  technological, demographic,  and  historial
aspects of World War II, including discussion of:

     * Arms  limitations treaties in the 1920's, intended to head
          off any future war
     * the Weimar Republic
     * the rise of the Italian Fascists
     * the Japanese war with China
     * the rise of the Nazi Party
     * American isolationism
     * Franco-British appeasement
     * Italian misadventures in Africa
     * German occupation of the Sudentenland and Austria
     * the war proper, 1939-1945
     * the Manhattan Project
     * the Holocaust
     * Post-war occupation of Japan and Germany
     * Post-war governments of Europe
     * and so on.

In  other words, the mandate for  is
intended  to  be  broad, rather than narrow, with  moderation  in
place  less to limit discussion than to keep out Gannon  and  the
Holocaust  Revisionists and other malicious posters.  Should  Dan
Gannon  or  Serdar  Argic submit articles which actually  discuss
World  War  Two  rather than spreading their brand of  conspiracy
theory, their articles will be approved for submission as well.

Moderation policy:
------------------ will have a very relaxed  moderation
policy.  The main purpose, as noted above, for moderation of this
group  is to prevent it from turning into a revisionist flamefest
akin  to  misc.headlines or soc.history.  As  such,  any  message
which  actually  discusses World War  II  will  be  approved  for
posting,  provided that it does not attempt to claim that  events
such as the Holocaust never happened.  There are other groups for
discussion of that question, most notably, alt.revisionism.

Moderation rules:

  *  Articles which discuss World War Two and its events will be
  approved for posting.

  *  Articles arguing that the Holocaust never happened will not
  be approved for posting.

  *  Articles must contain original thought.  Lengthy quoting of
  source  material with a couple of lines of comment at  the  end
  will not be approved for posting.

  *  Blank    messages,   test   messages,    advertisements,
  MAKE.MONEY.FAST,  and  so  forth,  will  not  be  approved  for

  *  Articles which include excessive quoting (e.g. an  article
  which  quotes  an entire other article in order to  add  a  few
  comments  at the end) will be trimmed down by the moderator  in

  *  An  article MUST have a valid reply-to address or it  will
  not be approved for posting.

  *  Rejected articles will be shared with the other moderators
  for group consideration.

As  noted  below, the group will be group-moderated, to  minimize
delay  between  submission and posting  and  to  keep  the  group
running when the traffic becomes heavy.

Moderators  will  be  added  by majority  vote  of  the  existing
moderators  and  moderators will be removed by 2/3  vote  in  the
event that a moderator is shown to be failing to do the job (i.e.
not posting anything).




Bixby <>


Those who wish to comment on this moderator vacancy investigation should
subscribe to news.groups.proposals and participate in the relevant
threads in that newsgroup.

To this end, the followup header of this MVI has been set to

For more information on the MVI process, please see


2023-09-28 Moderator Vacancy Investigation