From Usenet Big-8 Management Board
From: Alexander Bartolich <>
Subject: 1st RFD: comp.protocols.dns.std moderated (remove)
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 18:05:42 EST
Message-ID: <hkkphl$r94$>

              moderated group comp.protocols.dns.std

This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) to remove moderated
newsgroup comp.protocols.dns.std.


Probe posts to this group resulted in bounces.

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    <>): host[2001:4f8:1:d::12]
    said: 550 5.1.1 <>: Recipient address
    rejected: User unknown in local recipient table (in reply to RCPT TO


comp.protocols.dns.std	DNS standards activities, including IETF. (Moderated)




  Discussions of IETF and other DNS standards activities will take place
  here.  Internet drafts, comments and ruminations on internet drafts,
  official IETF working group announcements (related to DNS working
  groups such as DNSIND and DNSSEC) can be made here.  This newsgroup
  will be bidirectionally gatewayed to the <>
  mailing list.  Traffic crossing over from the newsgroup to the mailing
  list or vice versa will be moderated, as will all traffic on the
  newsgroup itself.  (The mailing list is unmoderated.)  Moderation is
  considered necessary to filter out SPAM and off-topic posts.  (See
  section entitled "CHARTER: all groups" for more information about
  moderation policy.)

  Gateway mailing list name: Name Droppers
  Submission address:
  Request address:
  On moderation: the primary moderation mechanism will be a robot which
  auto-approves posts if they do not appear to be SPAM and they are not
  cross-posted to other groups in the same hierarchy.  Articles which
  fail the robot's filters will be sent to a human (Paul Vixie) for
  handling.  Paul Vixie will approve any article which seems to be
  mostly on topic; he reserves the right to delete SPAM without
  notifying the sender, and the right to suggest to an author that her
  choice of newsgroups could profitably have been different, and the
  right to pass through errors from the news system such as "more than
  50% included text".  No article will be rejected on the basis of its
  flame content.  Cross posted articles will probably be rejected with
  an explaination to the author, since very few articles appropriate for
  any of these groups will be appropriate for any other group.  That
  decision will be made on a case by case basis, and the robot will be
  informed of newsgroup unions for which cross posting is acceptable so
  that human intervention won't be required in that case in the future.

  On naming: as a middle aged curmudgeon, your humble speaker feels it
  his duty to stamp out incorrect nomenclature such as "TCP/IP".  Most
  of the network traffic that carries DNS information is UDP, a peer of
  TCP in the great protocol stack in the sky.  Naming the original
  DNS-related newsgroup "" was an error,
  one we propose to (a) not repeat in our selection of names for these
  new groups, and (b) repair by deleting/renaming the c.p.t-i.d group to
  "comp.protocols.dns.ops".  It may or may not be an error to call a
  group "comp.protocols.tcp-ip", and we are not making any proposals
  that that group be renamed.  It would be a huge and compound error to
  call our groups "" et al.


comp.protocols.dns.std is a moderated newsgroup which passed its vote for
creation by 277:18 as reported in news.announce.newgroups on 7 Sep 1996.


Alexander Bartolich <>


Those who wish to comment on this request to remove this newsgroup should
subscribe to news.groups.proposals and participate in the relevant threads
in that newsgroup.

To this end, the followup header of this RFD has been set to

In the course of the removal process four formal announcements are posted
(MVI, 1st RFD, 2nd RFD, and LCC), each taking two weeks. At the end of the
process the B8MB will vote on the issue.

Available options for comp.protocols.dns.std are:
- leave the group as it is
- remove the group

For more information on the MVI process, please see


2010-01-19	Probe post
2010-01-24	Moderator Vacancy Investigation
2010-02-06	1st RFD