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From: Benjamin L.Russell <>
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups.proposals,comp.lang.lisp,comp.lang.scheme,comp.lang.functional
Subject: RFD: comp.lang.newlisp
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 23:18:03 EDT
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                      REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
                   unmoderated group comp.lang.newlisp

This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) for the creation of the 
unmoderated newsgroup comp.lang.newlisp.

For your newsgroups file:

comp.lang.newlisp	The newLISP programming language.

RATIONALE: comp.lang.newlisp

I went looking for a Big-8 group where I could discuss topics and
issues related to the newLISP programming language.

newLISP (see is a Lisp-1 dialect of the Lisp
programming language.  It currently has a base of at least 346
registered users (as of Tuesday, March 10, 2009, at 11:52 AM (Tokyo
time), and is a general-purpose scripting language.  It comes with a
fast, light, multi-tab DrScheme-style IDE (see equipped with syntax
highlighting and a built-in REPL.

There is a "newLISP fan club" Web-based forum (see with a total of 14448 articles by
346 registered users, as of Tuesday, March 10, 2009, at 11:52 AM
(Tokyo time).  However, the forum requires use of a browser, and many
old-time USENET users object to a Web-based interface for programming
language discussion.  Also, many of the users on this forum are of a
very elementary level and very application-oriented, and I would like
to promote more theoretical discussion of semantical issues related to
the programming language newLISP.  In addition, I wish to encourage
posts by more sophisticated users, such as those of the academic
community in programming language theory.

Comp.lang.lisp covers Lisp dialects of all sorts, but has a rather
Common Lisp-oriented focus. Comp.lang.scheme covers dialects of the
Scheme programming language, of which newLISP is not a dialect.
Comp.lang.functional covers functional programming dialects of all
sorts, but much of the discussion there would be confusing to new
users of newLISP, who are not aware of such differences as a Lisp-1
vs. a Lisp-2 dialect, or of a statically typed programming language
vs. a dynamically typed programming language, and so forth.

If created, this group would be limited to discussion of topics and
issues related to the newLISP programming language, but excluding
announcements. Users of comp.lang.newlisp may also be interested in
having a separate group, comp.lang.newslisp.announce, to discuss
related announcements.  Both groups should, IMO, be included in any
votes taken.


comp.lang.newlisp is an unmoderated group for the discussion
of topics and issues related to the newLISP programming language.
Topics include programming language theory, functional programming,
multimedia programming, formal semantics, syntax, and any other topics
related to the newLISP programming language.

Posters are expected to abide by normal Usenet standards of decorum,
and to ignore articles intended to disrupt the group.  The usual
suspects are prohibited (spam, binaries, direct advertising, etc.)


For more information on the newsgroup creation process, please see:

Those who wish to influence the development of this RFD and its final
resolution should subscribe to news.groups.proposals and participate
in the relevant threads in that newsgroup.  This is both a courtesy to
groups in which discussion of creating a new group is off-topic as
well as the best method of making sure that one's comments or
criticisms are heard.

All discussion of active proposals should be posted to

To this end, the followup header of this RFD has been set to

If desired by the readership of closely affected groups, the
discussion may be crossposted to those groups, but care must be taken
to ensure that all discussion appears in news.groups.proposals as

We urge those who would like to read or post in the proposed newsgroup
to make a comment to that effect in this thread; we ask proponents to
keep a list of such positive posts with the relevant message ID (e.g.,
Barney Fife, <>).
Such lists of positive feedback for the proposal may constitute good
evidence that the group will be well-used if it is created.


This document has been posted to the following newsgroups:



Benjamin L. Russell


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