From Usenet Big-8 Management Board
From: The Big-8 Management Board <>
Subject: RFD: remove moderated (LAST CALL FOR COMMENTS)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups, news.groups.proposals,,
Followup-To: news.groups.proposals
Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 16:11:36 -0500

                      REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)

This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) to remove the moderated


The B8MB plans to begin voting on this proposal after five days.  Please
offer any final discussion or comments before the end of this waiting
period.  Voting may take up to one week (7 days); a result will be posted
following the end of the voting period.

All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.proposals.

The full group removal procedure is documented here:


One comment was received from Andrew Borchert stating, "I am not aware
of any new developments that attempt to create a new NeWS
implementation. The original product is no longer available and it was
also never released into the public. As it appears today, NeWS is only
interesting from a historic perspective and it is not likely that this
will change."


The last approved article was in March 2000.  Sun Microsystems
announced the end of life for the Network extensible Window System
(NeWS) in the early 1990's.

During the early 1990's, traffic in the then unmoderated was fairly light, less than 10 articles per week. In
December 1995, the group was moderated in place in order to exclude
misplaced articles related to "news" about MS-Windows.  After the
moderation, fewer than 20 articles were approved to the newsgroup.

Because of its name, conversion to an unmoderated status is not
practical.  An unmoderated newsgrooup would be overrun by MS-Windows
traffic (see


The unmoderated newsgroup was created in April 1987,
soon after the Great Renaming. and
are of similar vintage.

The newsgroup was created in November 1988 for
discussion of early versions of MS-Windows.  Because of continued off
topic posting to the other newsgroups in the* hierarchy, was re-organized into* in 1992.

Despite creation of an entire hierarchy dedicated to MS-Windows,
off-topic posting continued in the* hierarchy.  The
newsgroup had the additional burden of a name that
suggested it was for "news" about (MS)-Windows, rather than being
about the NeWS.

In December 1995, was converted to a moderated group
in order to exclude off-topic discussion, as well as "debate" about
the group name.

Over the next 5 years less than 20 articles were approved.  The last
approval was in March 2000.


This document has been posted to the following newsgroups:



The newsgroup line is:	The Network extensible Windowing System.

The charter (extracted from the CFV for moderating the group): is dedicated to the discussion of the Network
extensible Windowing System developed and marketed by Sun Microsystems
during the late 80's and early 90's. Topics include the NeWS server,
NeWS-specific issues relating to the X/NeWS server, the NeWS dialect
of PostScript, and any efforts to produce NeWS-compatible systems.


Jim Riley <>


2007-04-19     1st RFD
2007-05-03     2nd RFD/LCC