From Usenet Big-8 Management Board
From: Jim Riley <>
Subject: RFD: remove soc.religion.vaishnava moderated
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups, soc.religion.vaishnava,
 humanities.language.sanskrit, news.groups.proposals, soc.religion.hindu
Followup-To: news.groups.proposals
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 16:17:54 -0600

                      REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
                     remove soc.religion.vaishnava

This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) to remove the moderated
newsgroup soc.religion.vaishnava.

RATIONALE: remove soc.religion.vaishnava

The newsgroup soc.religion.vaishnava has not had any approved messages
since March 1998.  After its creation in 1996, the group was active
for slightly over 2 years.  It has been inactive for the past 9 years.

Conceivably, the group could be converted to an unmoderated status.
But one of the reasons for moderation in the first place was to block
gross abuse of discussion by Jay Stevens (aka Jai Maharaj).  The group
was robomoderated, with provisions against cross-posting; more than 4
articles per 24 hours; or posting with Subjects in all caps.

It might be possible to reinsitute robomoderation, but any such
moderation should be expected to deal with attempts by Jay Stevens to
flood the group or circumvent the moderation of the group.  It might
also be possible to institute conventional hand moderation.

The lack of support for creation for soc.religion.vaishnava.dvaita
(see History) may indicate a lack of interest in the revival of


The newsgroup soc.religion.vaishnava was created in January 1996.  It
was active for slightly over 2 years, until March 1998.

In August 1999, a proposal was made to create
soc.religion.vaishnava.dvaita.  Part of the rationale for the proposed
group, was the inactivity of soc.religion.vaishnava and
soc.religion.hindu.  The proposal for the new group failed for lack of
support (90:38).


The full group removal procedure is documented here:

Those who wish to comment on this request to remove this newsgroup should
subscribe to news.groups.proposals and participate in the relevant threads 
in that newsgroup.

To this end, the followup header of this RFD has been set to 

All discussion of active proposals should be posted to news.groups.proposals.

If desired by the readership of closely affected groups, the discussion
may be crossposted to those groups, but care must be taken to ensure that
all discussion appears in news.groups.proposals as well.


This document has been posted to the following newsgroups:



Jim Riley <>


2007-02-01     1st RFD