From Usenet Big-8 Management Board
From: Jim Riley <>
Subject: RFD: remove comp.home.misc moderated
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups, comp.society.futures,
 comp.home.automation, news.groups.proposals, comp.home.misc
Followup-To: news.groups.proposals
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 12:40:40 -0600

                      REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
                         remove comp.home.misc

This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) to remove the moderated
newsgroup comp.home.misc.

RATIONALE: remove comp.home.misc

The newsgroup comp.home.misc has not had any approvals since December
1997, and these were invitations by the moderator to join a www-based
forum saying in part:

  You may wonder, why we are not using the usenet comp.home.misc group
for these purposes. The explanation is, that traffic on usenet is of
such volume, that many servers tends to discard messages more than a
few weeks old. This prevents the emergence of stabilizing thematic
  structure, and looses  relevant researcher-participants, who may
  visit the net more infrequently.(But this call will go out on

Prior to that, about 60 articles had been approved in an 11 month
period from the founding of the newsgroup in February 1994 to January

Unmoderated discussion about practical aspects of home automation may
continue in comp.home.automation, so that there would be little
utility in converting comp.home.misc to an unmoderated status.


The newsgroup comp.home.misc was created in February 1994.  At the
time it was created there was interest expressed in the more practical
aspects of home automation, but this was outside the proponent's
vision for comp.home.misc.  The unmoderated comp.home.automation was
created in May 1994.

The original proponent anticipated an eventual hierarchy of groups in
a comp.home.* hierarchy, which explains the unusual use of ".misc" for
a moderated group.

The newsgroup comp.home.misc was active for 11 months with around 60
articles posted.  With the last approvals in January 1995.  There were
3 additional approvals in December 1997, but these were invitations
for any readers to join www-based forums.


The full group removal procedure is documented here:

Those who wish to comment on this request to remove this newsgroup should
subscribe to news.groups.proposals and participate in the relevant threads 
in that newsgroup.

To this end, the followup header of this RFD has been set to 

All discussion of active proposals should be posted to news.groups.proposals.

If desired by the readership of closely affected groups, the discussion
may be crossposted to those groups, but care must be taken to ensure that
all discussion appears in news.groups.proposals as well.


This document has been posted to the following newsgroups:



Jim Riley <>


2007-01-18     1st RFD