From Usenet Big-8 Management Board
From: (The Big-8 Management Board)
Subject: 3rd RFD: remove comp.networks.noctools.* hierarchy (LAST CALL FOR COMMENTS)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups, news.groups,
 comp.networks.noctools.announce, comp.networks.noctools.bugs,
 comp.networks.noctools.d, comp.networks.noctools.submissions,, comp.networks.noctools.wanted,
Followup-To: news.groups
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 08:40:17 -0700

                      REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
                remove comp.networks.noctools.* hierarchy

This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) to remove the unmoderated
newsgroup comp.networks.noctools.* hierarchy.


The B8MB plans to begin voting on this proposal after five days.  Please
offer any final discussion or comments before the end of this waiting
period.  Voting may take up to one week (7 days); a result will be posted
following the end of the voting period.

All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.

The full (draft) group removal procedure is documented here:


No comments were made.  There were several spam messages made to the
unmoderated groups.  Apparently 'network' means "find marks for Ponzi

RATIONALE: remove comp.networks.noctools-remove

This sub-hierarchy is associated with a catalog of noctools sponsored by the
IETF, and at one time maintained at Washington University in St. Louis:

The catalog is no longer maintained (and I could not find it on the
Washington University ftp site).

comp.networks.noctools.announce has not had any approved messages since
August 1995. has not had any approved messages since
September 1994.

The unmoderated groups comp.networks.noctools.{bugs|d|submissions|wanted}
have not had any messages related to the catalog of noctools sponsored by
the IETF, and at one time maintained at Washington University in St. Louis:

Some of the unmoderated groups have rare posts that may be appropriate
for comp.dcom.* groups such as

Note that the removal of the comp.networks.noctools.* sub-hierarchy will have
the effect of eliminating the comp.networks.* sub-hierarchy, since it has no
other groups (and no other such groups have ever existed).

This RFD is part of a proposal to remove 31 low-traffic former-INET
groups.  Please see article <>, available here:

Note: the proposal to remove two of the 31 groups, comp.os.rsts and
comp.std.announce, has been withdrawn.


The 6 groups in the comp.networks.noctools.* sub-hierarchy were created in
November 1992.  They were promoted to the standard Big 8 distribution in
October 2000.


This document has been posted to the following newsgroups:



Jim Riley <>


2006-08-08     3rd RFD (Last call for Comments)
2006-07-13     2nd ("comprehensive") RFD
2006-07-06     1st RFD