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From: Vito Kuhn <email@example.com> Subject: 2nd RFD: remove comp.lang.prograph (LAST CALL FOR COMMENTS) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, comp.lang.prograph Followup-To: news.groups Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 08:26:11 -0700 REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) remove comp.lang.prograph This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) to remove the unmoderated Usenet newsgroup comp.lang.prograph. PROCEDURE: The B8MB plans to begin voting on this proposal after five days. Please offer any final discussion or comments before the end of this waiting period. Voting may take up to one week (7 days); a result will be posted following the end of the voting period. All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups. The full (draft) group removal procedure is documented here: http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:rmgroup RATIONALE: comp.lang.prograph This newsgroup hasn't seen any significant traffic in years. In the past 12 months alone, the group didn't even see ONE on-topic post. Scan results from http://netscan.research.microsoft.com : http://makeashorterlink.com/?Q46B1592D It's clear that comp.lang.prograph is an ideal candidate for removal. EXISTING CHARTER: comp.lang.prograph Any and all discussion about Prograph, a unique visual object-oriented dataflow programming language. What is Prograph?: Prograph is a complete programming language and environment that uses visual elements to describe objects and functions -- there is no textual syntax -- and it has its own interpreter and compiler. After over five years of availability on the Apple Macintosh, Prograph is moving cross-platform with versions for Windows and several Unices currently in testing. The most recent version of Prograph, Prograph CPX, contains a cross-platform application framework class library and high-level GUI builder. Prograph will also have the ability to generate C++ code which will be compilable under gcc linked to a set of compatibility classes on a wide variety of platforms. What about Prograph Source Code?: Prograph source code should not be loaded onto the usenet system, as it tends to be large. Instead, there is a Prograph file archive maintained at ftp.iup.edu in the info-prograph directory where files can be uploaded and downloaded via anonymous ftp. For those without ftp access, an info-prograph-sources mailing list can be established. alt.sources.mac also lists Prograph code as one of its legal posting types. END CHARTER. NOTE: This group was originally gated to a mail list when it was created in 1994: Info-Prograph <firstname.lastname@example.org> DISTRIBUTION: This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups news.groups comp.lang.prograph PROPONENT: Vito Kuhn <email@example.com> CHANGE HISTORY: 2006-06-06 LCC prepared. 2006-05-31 RFD prepared for posting. 2006-05-25 RFD prepared by Vito Kuhn.