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From: firstname.lastname@example.org (Big-8 Management Board) Subject: RFD: remove comp.binaries.apple2 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, comp.binaries.apple2, comp.sys.apple2, comp.sys.apple2.usergroups Followup-To: news.groups Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 13:05:00 -0700 REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) remove comp.binaries.apple2 This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) to remove the unmoderated Usenet newsgroup comp.binaries.apple2. RATIONALE: comp.binaries.apple2 Right now, there is only one unmoderated binary group in the Big Eight, namely comp.binaries.apple2. There are three major reasons to remove this newsgroup: * The Apple ][ platform is fairly obsolete, and while binaries for that platform may still be of interest to emulator buffs, there are lots of web sites from which one can obtain such binaries or even upload new ones. There really doesn't seem to be much point in having a Usenet newsgroup for the distribution of such binaries. * Because the group is unmoderated, it is used for all sorts of binaries that have nothing to do with the Apple ][. Because it's a Big Eight group, it's widely propagated and therefore is a useful place for binary posters who want to get their binaries to systems that don't carry alt.binaries.*. This is an obvious abuse of what the Big Eight is for. * As an unmoderated binary group, the traffic in this group has from time to time exceeded the combined traffic of the entire rest of the hierarchy and is often a substantial percentage of the rest of the hierarchy. Andrew Gierth from Supernews has posted statistics to news.groups in the past. The newsgroup was created 23 May 1991. A vote to moderate the group in 1992 failed 99:64:2. Details are available on the web here: ftp://ftp.isc.org/pub/usenet/news.announce.newgroups/comp/comp.binaries.apple2 ftp://ftp.isc.org/usenet/control/comp/comp.binaries.apple2.gz EXISTING CHARTER: The group has no charter other than the newsgroups line. END CHARTER. DISTRIBUTION: This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups news.groups comp.binaries.apple2 comp.sys.apple2 comp.sys.apple2.usergroups PROCEDURE: The full (draft) group removal procedure is documented here: http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:rmgroup Those who wish to comment on this request to remove this newsgroup should subscribe to news.groups and participate in the relevant threads in that newsgroup. To this end, the followup header of this RFD has been set to news.groups. All discussion of active proposals should be posted to news.groups. If desired by the readership of closely affected groups, the discussion may be crossposted to those groups, but care must be taken to ensure that all discussion appears in news.groups as well. PROPONENT: Dave Sill <email@example.com> and the Deadwood Task Force CHANGE HISTORY: 2006-06-06 RFD drafted by Martin Moleski and Tim Skirvin. 2006-06-02 Draft submitted to DGTF and Big-8.