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Subject: RFD: moderated (remove) LAST CALL FOR COMMENTS
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 22:49:19 EST
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              moderated group

This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) to remove moderated


According to Google's archive the last regular post was approved on
2007-07-18. A probe message resulted in a bounce.

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    (in reply to RCPT TO command)

"The Real Bev" says that he/she would be happy to do the moderation
if somebody else provided the setup. Steve Bonine sees no evidence
that a group of people exists in Usenet who are interested in the

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The discussion following the LCC brought up concerns that most users
of rec.bicycles.* might be unaware of this proposal. It was suggested
that further RFDs should be crossposted to all groups of the sub-hier-
archy. However, this would certainly encounter limitations imposed by
typical filter setups. As a compromise this RFD is crossposted to the
two groups with the most traffic, RBT and RBR, instead of RBM.

NEWSGROUPS LINE:	Moderated off-road cyclist topics. (Moderated)



CHARTER OF REC.BICYCLES.OFF-ROAD is a forum for discussion whose purpose is to
provide information and support to off-road (or off pavement)
bicyclists.  The use of a bicycle on umimproved roads, gravel, dirt,
grass, sand, single track or 4x4 roads should be considered off road
use. (Basically anywhere that is not man made, hard and flat.)
Dicussion might include (but not limited to):

        Environmental issues involving off-road bicycling
        Technical/practical issues involved in off-road bicycling
        Trail Issues
        Backcountry/Bush travel involving bicycles
                -camping skills
                -responsibilities to the environment
                -equipment options or combinations
                -overnight vs day use trips
        Tips on how to handle off-road specific conditions
        (technically and eco-sensitively)
                -tree roots
                -microbiotic crust
                -loose steep climbs, etc.
        Off-road biking magazines and other off-road biking media
        Where, when, and how to ride off road

Any topic that relates to off road use of bicycles might be a subject
for discussion.  However, the rec.bicycles hierarchy already contains
other groups, and readers of would be encouraged
to not post to where interest is to a broarder

Items for sale/wanted should be posted to rec.bicycles.marketplace.
Technical issues should be posted to unless the item
is strictly of interest to only off road bicyclists. will:

        1.  Provide the off road bicyclist with a newsgroup to discus
            off road bicycling rides, issues, and concerns.

        2.  Help educate the bicyclist cycling off road on how to care
            for and respect the backcounty/bush.

        3.  Allow hikers and other users of off road areas to share
            concerns about bicyclists in the backcountry/bush.

In summary, encourages the free and open
discussion on aspects of off-road.

HISTORY OF THE GROUP: is a moderated newsgroup which passed its vote for
creation by 367:26 as reported in news.announce.newgroups on 10 Feb 1998.


Alexander Bartolich <>


Those who wish to comment on this request to remove this newsgroup should
subscribe to news.groups.proposals and participate in the relevant threads
in that newsgroup.

To this end, the followup header of this RFD has been set to

In the course of the removal process four formal announcements are posted
(MVI, 1st RFD, 2nd RFD, and LCC), each taking two weeks. At the end of the
process the B8MB will vote on the issue.

Available options for are:
- leave the group as it is
- remove the group

For more information on the removal process, please see


2010-05-20	Probe post
2010-08-09	Moderator Vacancy Investigation
2010-08-23	1st RFD
2010-09-06	2nd RFD
2010-10-02	3rd RFD
2010-12-26	4th RFD
2011-01-16	LCC