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From: Big-8 Management Board <board@big-8.org>
From: Big-8 Management Board <board@big-8.org>
Subject: RFD: comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.announce moderated (remove) LAST CALL FOR COMMENTS
Subject: RFD: comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.announce moderated (change moderator or remove) LAST CALL FOR COMMENTS
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 19:53:58 EST
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 19:53:04 EST
Message-ID: <hib3mh$2m2$1@news.albasani.net>
Message-ID: <hib3ml$2n1$1@news.albasani.net>




               REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
               REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
               moderated group comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.announce
               moderated group comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.announce


This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) to remove moderated
This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) to change moderators of
newsgroup comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.announce.
comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.announce, or to remove this group.


RATIONALE:
RATIONALE:


Chris Demetriou replied to a probe post and took the issue to the board
Probe posts to this group resulted in bounces.
of the NetBSD Foundation. Matthias Scheler, on behalf of the board of
 
directors, says that they are no longer using the group and suggests
  openbsd-announce@courtesan.com
that it is removed.
    (generated from comp-unix-bsd-openbsd-announce@moderators.isc.org)
    SMTP error from remote mail server after
    RCPT TO:<openbsd-announce@courtesan.com>:
    host courtesan.com [64.85.164.38]: 550 5.1.1
    <openbsd-announce@courtesan.com>... User unknown
 
Florian Rehnisch posted in news.groups.proposals that he is willing to
take over moderation.
>Message-ID: <2009-12-02$14.31.42@x.vimhelp.de.vu>
 
Johan van Selst (johans at stack.nl) sent mail stating that courtesan.com
is Todd Miller's domain; he can be reached at Todd.Miller at courtesan.com.
Johan is willing to take over moderation.
 
  Perceived shortcomings of both offers:
  - No concept for revival of group.
  - No details about technical infrastructure.
  - Moderation team too small.
  - No policy for replacement of inactive members.


NEWSGROUPS LINE:
NEWSGROUPS LINE:


comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.announce Announcements pertaining to NetBSD. (Moderated)
comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.announce OpenBSD announcements. (Moderated)


DISTRIBUTION:
DISTRIBUTION:
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news.announce.newgroups
news.announce.newgroups
news.groups.proposals
news.groups.proposals
comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.announce
comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.announce
 
CHARTER OF COMP.UNIX.BSD.OPENBSD.ANNOUNCE


CHARTER OF COMP.UNIX.BSD.NETBSD.ANNOUNCE
comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.announce is a moderated group for general
announcements pertaining to the OpenBSD operating system.  This
includes but is not limited to new releases of OpenBSD, impending
changes that affect OpenBSD users, and new products available for
OpenBSD.


        Moderated by Chris Demetriou <cgd@alpha.bostic.com>.
Moderation policies:


        This newsgroup is for announcements relating to the NetBSD
Articles should be accepted that pertain to the availability of new
        operating system. Things appropriate for the .announce group
products for the OpenBSD operating system (including new versions
        would include announcements of new versions of NetBSD,
of OpenBSD itself). Articles regarding commercial products should
        announcements of major software releases (both commercial and
be accepted if and only if the products in question are usable
        freely redistributable) for NetBSD (e.g. new version of X11 for
with OpenBSD and not general in nature.
        NetBSD), announcements of fixes for major bugs, and the like.
        FAQs relating to NetBSD should also be cross-posted to this group.


HISTORY OF THE GROUP:
HISTORY OF THE GROUP:


comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.announce is a moderated newsgroup which passed its vote
comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.announce is a moderated newsgroup which passed its vote
for creation by 332:70 as reported in news.announce.newgroups on 22 Feb 1995.
for creation by 244:32 as reported in news.announce.newgroups on 22 Feb 1997.


PROPONENT:
PROPONENT:
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process the B8MB will vote on the issue.
process the B8MB will vote on the issue.


Available options for comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.announce are:
Available options for comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.announce are:
- leave the group as it is
- leave the group as it is
- remove the group
- remove the group


For more information on the MVA process, please see  
For more information on the MVI process, please see  


http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:mvi
http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:mvi
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CHANGE HISTORY:
CHANGE HISTORY:


2009-10-29 Probe post
2009-10-29 Probe post bounced
2009-11-10 Matthias Scheler declares that the group is unused
2009-11-29 Moderator Vacancy Investigation
2009-11-29 Moderator Vacancy Announcement
2009-12-13 1st RFD
2009-12-13 1st RFD
2009-12-27 2nd RFD
2009-12-27 2nd RFD
2010-01-09 LCC
2010-01-09 LCC
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From: Big-8 Management Board <board@big-8.org>
Subject: RFD: comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.announce moderated (change moderator or remove) LAST CALL FOR COMMENTS
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 19:53:04 EST
Message-ID: <hib3ml$2n1$1@news.albasani.net>


              REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
              moderated group comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.announce

This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) to change moderators of
comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.announce, or to remove this group.

RATIONALE:

Probe posts to this group resulted in bounces.

  openbsd-announce@courtesan.com
    (generated from comp-unix-bsd-openbsd-announce@moderators.isc.org)
    SMTP error from remote mail server after
    RCPT TO:<openbsd-announce@courtesan.com>:
    host courtesan.com [64.85.164.38]: 550 5.1.1
    <openbsd-announce@courtesan.com>... User unknown

Florian Rehnisch posted in news.groups.proposals that he is willing to
take over moderation.
>Message-ID: <2009-12-02$14.31.42@x.vimhelp.de.vu>

Johan van Selst (johans at stack.nl) sent mail stating that courtesan.com
is Todd Miller's domain; he can be reached at Todd.Miller at courtesan.com.
Johan is willing to take over moderation.

  Perceived shortcomings of both offers:
  - No concept for revival of group.
  - No details about technical infrastructure.
  - Moderation team too small.
  - No policy for replacement of inactive members.

NEWSGROUPS LINE:

comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.announce	OpenBSD announcements. (Moderated)

DISTRIBUTION:

news.announce.newgroups
news.groups.proposals
comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.announce

CHARTER OF COMP.UNIX.BSD.OPENBSD.ANNOUNCE

comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.announce is a moderated group for general
announcements pertaining to the OpenBSD operating system.  This
includes but is not limited to new releases of OpenBSD, impending
changes that affect OpenBSD users, and new products available for
OpenBSD.

Moderation policies:

Articles should be accepted that pertain to the availability of new
products for the OpenBSD operating system (including new versions
of OpenBSD itself).  Articles regarding commercial products should
be accepted if and only if the products in question are usable
with OpenBSD and not general in nature.

HISTORY OF THE GROUP:

comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.announce is a moderated newsgroup which passed its vote
for creation by 244:32 as reported in news.announce.newgroups on 22 Feb 1997.

PROPONENT:

Alexander Bartolich <alexander.bartolich@gmx.at>

PROCEDURE:

Those who wish to comment on this request to remove this newsgroup should
subscribe to news.groups.proposals and participate in the relevant threads
in that newsgroup.

To this end, the followup header of this RFD has been set to
news.groups.proposals.

In the course of the removal process four formal announcements are posted
(MVI, 1st RFD, 2nd RFD, and LCC), each taking two weeks. At the end of the
process the B8MB will vote on the issue.

Available options for comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.announce are:
- leave the group as it is
- remove the group

For more information on the MVI process, please see 

http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:mvi

CHANGE HISTORY:

2009-10-29	Probe post bounced
2009-11-29	Moderator Vacancy Investigation
2009-12-13	1st RFD
2009-12-27	2nd RFD
2010-01-09	LCC