Changing the Moderation Status of Existing Groups
From Usenet Big-8 Management Board
Revision as of 15:18, 6 July 2010 by Moleski (Created page with '== Newsgroups may be changed: == ;From moderated to unmoderated. :This change may be initiated by members of the group or by the B8MB when a moderated group has been abandoned. …')
Newsgroups may be changed:
- From moderated to unmoderated.
- This change may be initiated by members of the group or by the B8MB when a moderated group has been abandoned.
- From unmoderated to moderated.
- Changing a group from unmoderated to moderated is "strongly discouraged" - which, in practice, means "practically impossible."
- There are many News Service Providers who would not make the change. Some people would see a moderated group, others with different NSPs would see the moderated version.
- Such changes in the past have cultivated massive resentments. Leaving the original group intact and creating a companion moderated group allows group members to have a choice between the two different kinds of newsgroups on the same topic.
- In all likelihood, the board won't even publish an RFD to change a group from unmoderated to moderated. A proposal for such a change should not be submitted unless the group finds a way to demonstrate virtual unanimity. We strongly recommend that you instead spend your effort on learning how to use filters or how to create a moderated companion to the original group.
- Examples of change from unmoderated to moderated:*
I think the RFD's for most are here. In many cases, there is the original RFD for the unmoderated group, and the RFD for the switch to a moderation a year or two later. ftp:''ftp.isc.org/pub/usenet/news.announce.newgroups comp.ai (cross-posting, spam, noise) comp.compression.research ("research" not magic token) comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi (robomoderated) comp.lang.asm.x86 (flame wars - 68000 is too better) comp.lang.visual (confusion - MS Visual Basic) comp.programming.literate (confusion - programming literacy) comp.protocols.dns.ops (renamed comp.protocols.tcp-ip.domains) comp.std.c++ (confusion - c++ rather than standardization) comp.windows.news (confusion - news about MS-Windows) misc.business.facilitators (confusion - Ponzi scheme business) news.newusers.questions (disorganized) rec.arts.comics.creative (off-topic swamps low volume) rec.crafts.jewelry (off topic/commercial) rec.games.mecha (flame-wars) rec.music.makers.guitar.tablature (noise, non-tabs) sci.aeronautics (noise) soc.culture.indian.telugu (robo-moderate cross-posts) soc.genealogy.african (offensive, racist trolling) soc.support.pregnancy.loss (inflamatory/trolling) talk.origins (excessive cross-posting)
The B8MB may also in rare and unusual circumstances change the moderator(s) of a newsgroup.
- The easy case is when the group has been abandoned. See the page on mvi Moderator Vacancy Investigations.
- The hard cases are, at present, undefined.
How Moderation Is Supposed to Work
- A new post is sent via the News Net Transfer Protocol (NNTP) to a news server.
- IF it is correctly configured, the news server sees the group is moderated, and relays the post via e-mail to faqs:isc_archives ISC.org via the Simple Mail Transfer Protocol (SMTP).
- ISC.org sends the message via SMTP to the email (SMTP) address used by the moderator(s).
- The email server passes the post to the moderator(s) or the moderation software.
- If the post is approved, either automatically by software or by a human decision, the "approved" header is added to the post.
- The post is then injected via NNTP into a news server, which then shares it with its peers.
Jim Riley's Surveys of Moderated Group Acitivity
Jim has done a number of surveys of the traffic activity in moderated Big-8 newsgroups.