Nan:2010-03-07-lcc-comp.protocols.dns.std

From: Big-8 Management Board <board@big-8.org>
Subject: RFD: comp.protocols.dns.std moderated (remove) LAST CALL FOR COMMENTS
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 17:51:25 EST
Message-ID: <hn0v77$g9b$1@news.albasani.net>

              REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
              moderated group comp.protocols.dns.std

This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) to remove moderated
newsgroup comp.protocols.dns.std.

RATIONALE:

Probe posts to this group resulted in bounces.

<comp-protocols-dns-std@webster.isc.org> (expanded from
    <comp-protocols-dns-std@isc.org>): host webster.isc.org[2001:4f8:1:d::12]
    said: 550 5.1.1 <comp-protocols-dns-std@webster.isc.org>: Recipient address
    rejected: User unknown in local recipient table (in reply to RCPT TO
    command)

Jonathan de Boyne Pollard took the issue to the Namedroppers mailing list.
Paul Vixie replied, stating the he created the group a few years ago and
then forgot about it. Since nobody except him reads Usenet anyway it's safe
to kill the group.

NEWSGROUPS LINE:

comp.protocols.dns.std	DNS standards activities, including IETF. (Moderated)

DISTRIBUTION:

news.announce.newgroups
news.groups.proposals
comp.protocols.dns.std
comp.protocols.misc

CHARTER OF COMP.PROTOCOLS.DNS.STD

  Discussions of IETF and other DNS standards activities will take place
  here.  Internet drafts, comments and ruminations on internet drafts,
  official IETF working group announcements (related to DNS working
  groups such as DNSIND and DNSSEC) can be made here.  This newsgroup
  will be bidirectionally gatewayed to the <namedroppers@internic.net>
  mailing list.  Traffic crossing over from the newsgroup to the mailing
  list or vice versa will be moderated, as will all traffic on the
  newsgroup itself.  (The mailing list is unmoderated.)  Moderation is
  considered necessary to filter out SPAM and off-topic posts.  (See
  section entitled "CHARTER: all groups" for more information about
  moderation policy.)

  Gateway mailing list name: Name Droppers
  Submission address: namedroppers@internic.net
  Request address: namedroppers-request@internic.net
  On moderation: the primary moderation mechanism will be a robot which
  auto-approves posts if they do not appear to be SPAM and they are not
  cross-posted to other groups in the same hierarchy.  Articles which
  fail the robot's filters will be sent to a human (Paul Vixie) for
  handling.  Paul Vixie will approve any article which seems to be
  mostly on topic; he reserves the right to delete SPAM without
  notifying the sender, and the right to suggest to an author that her
  choice of newsgroups could profitably have been different, and the
  right to pass through errors from the news system such as "more than
  50% included text".  No article will be rejected on the basis of its
  flame content.  Cross posted articles will probably be rejected with
  an explaination to the author, since very few articles appropriate for
  any of these groups will be appropriate for any other group.  That
  decision will be made on a case by case basis, and the robot will be
  informed of newsgroup unions for which cross posting is acceptable so
  that human intervention won't be required in that case in the future.

  On naming: as a middle aged curmudgeon, your humble speaker feels it
  his duty to stamp out incorrect nomenclature such as "TCP/IP".  Most
  of the network traffic that carries DNS information is UDP, a peer of
  TCP in the great protocol stack in the sky.  Naming the original
  DNS-related newsgroup "comp.protocols.tcp-ip.domains" was an error,
  one we propose to (a) not repeat in our selection of names for these
  new groups, and (b) repair by deleting/renaming the c.p.t-i.d group to
  "comp.protocols.dns.ops".  It may or may not be an error to call a
  group "comp.protocols.tcp-ip", and we are not making any proposals
  that that group be renamed.  It would be a huge and compound error to
  call our groups "comp.protocols.tcp-ip.domains.bind" et al.

HISTORY OF THE GROUP:

comp.protocols.dns.std is a moderated newsgroup which passed its vote for
creation by 277:18 as reported in news.announce.newgroups on 7 Sep 1996.

PROPONENT:

Alexander Bartolich <alexander.bartolich@gmx.at>

PROCEDURE:

Those who wish to comment on this request to remove this newsgroup should
subscribe to news.groups.proposals and participate in the relevant threads
in that newsgroup.

To this end, the followup header of this RFD has been set to
news.groups.proposals.

In the course of the removal process four formal announcements are posted
(MVI, 1st RFD, 2nd RFD, and LCC), each taking two weeks. At the end of the
process the B8MB will vote on the issue.

Available options for comp.protocols.dns.std are:
- leave the group as it is
- remove the group

For more information on the MVI process, please see 

http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:mvi

CHANGE HISTORY:

2010-01-19	Probe post
2010-01-24	Moderator Vacancy Investigation
2010-02-06	1st RFD
2010-02-21	2nd RFD
2010-03-07	LCC