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From: Big-8 Management Board <board@big-8.org>
From: Big-8 Management Board <board@big-8.org>
Subject: RESULT: rec.video.professional will be removed
Subject: RESULT: rec.arts.books.reviews will be removed
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2010 15:26:27 EDT
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2010 15:26:32 EDT
Message-ID: <i8qerr$bg6$1@news.albasani.net>
Message-ID: <i8qepv$bet$1@news.albasani.net>


                               RESULT
                               RESULT
               rec.video.professional will be removed
               rec.arts.books.reviews will be removed


The Last Call for Comments (LCC) on 2010-10-02 initiated a five-day
The Last Call for Comments (LCC) on 2010-10-02 initiated a five-day
period for final comments.  Following this comment period, the Big-8
period for final comments.  Following this comment period, the Big-8
Management Board has decided by consensus to remove moderated group
Management Board has decided by consensus to remove moderated group
rec.video.professional.
rec.arts.books.reviews.


RATIONALE:
RATIONALE:


According to Google's archive the last regular post was approved on
According to Google's archive the last regular post was approved on
2003-01-22. A probe message resulted in a bounce.
2006-12-05. A probe message showed no result.


<rec-video-professional@moderators.isc.org>: host
Miguel Farah posted in news.groups.proposals that the moderation is
  moderators.switch.ch[130.59.1.10] said: 550 all relevant MX records
not abandoned, yet the group is dead for all intents and purposes.
  point to non-existent hosts (in reply to RCPT TO command)
He thinks the newsgroup should be removed.


Richard Crowley says that the newsgroup went through more than one
>Message-ID: <c4e91aae-3360-4dfd-bb8a-e76eb2d25e89@w30g2000yqw.googlegroups.com>
round of setting up new moderation, but ultimately failed each time.
>Message-ID: <8cavquFblcU1@mid.individual.net>


NEWSGROUPS LINE:
NEWSGROUPS LINE:


rec.video.professional Professional video, technical and artistic. (Moderated)
rec.arts.books.reviews Book reviews. (Moderated)


DISTRIBUTION:
DISTRIBUTION:
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news.announce.newgroups
news.announce.newgroups
news.groups.proposals
news.groups.proposals
rec.video.professional
rec.arts.books.reviews
rec.video
rec.arts.books


CHARTER OF REC.VIDEO.PROFESSIONAL
CHARTER OF REC.ARTS.BOOKS.REVIEWS


This would be a general newsgroup dealing with specific technical and
The purpose of this group is to carry reviews of books.  A review
artistic issues in professional video, television and broadcasting.
consists of commentary on a book by someone who has read the book
designed to help those who have not read it make an informed decision
Topics would include:
as to whether or not to do so. 
 
+ policy (eg. federal regulations passed down from the Federal
This newsgroup will be a moderated group.
  Communications Commission) and operation (eg. day-to-day physical
 
  plant) of broadcast, production and post production facilities.
The following materials will appear in the group:
 
+ announcements of events of interest to the video, television and
    - Reviews of written works
  broadcasting community such as conferences and conventions.
    - Descriptions of reviewer philosophy or background
   
 
+ ENG (Electronic News Gathering) equipment specifications.
The following are not appropriate for the group:
   
+ New ENG (Electronic News Gathering) technology such as disk-based
    - Discussion of books
  (as opposed to tape-based cameras).
    - Announcements of book availability
    - Advertisements and promotional materials
+ ENG (Electronic News Gathering) videotape formats.
    - Requests that a particular book be reviewed
   
 
+ Linear and nonlinear editing.
Reviewers who have a financial interest in the books they review
   
should state this fact in their reviews.
+ Special Effect design and creation.
 
   
Moderator:  
+ Problem solving and Trouble Shooting.
 
The moderator will be Steve Brock <brock@ucsub.colorado.edu>.
+ Production artistry.
The backup moderator will be Danny Yee <danny@staff.cs.su.oz.au>.
   
 
+ Single camera productions.
The submissions address is book-reviews@colorado.edu.  There is no
   
special contact address.
+ Multiple camera productions.
 
Moderation policy:
+ In-Studio productions.
 
The function of moderation is to ensure that only reviews and related
+ Remote (out of studio) productions.
materials appear in the group.
 
    - Reviews must contain some details. For example, "XXX is a great
      book!" is not a review.
 
    - Posts will never be rejected on the basis of relevant content,
      but the moderator would reject (for example) a post that
      pretended to be a book review of _Lord of the Rings_ but was
      actually an excuse for an anti-Armenian diatribe.
 
    - A review MUST clearly indicate the title, author and publisher
      of the bookA book review SHOULD contain the length,
      publication date, ISBN, price, and subject or keywordsThe
      more bibliographic data the betterNo specific format will be
      required for this data, though some format may be encouraged.  
 
    - Posters should crosspost reviews into rec.arts.books and other
      relevant groups. Followups should be directed to the
      appropriate group(s) (rec.arts.books if nowhere else is
      suitable). The moderator may modify the Followup-To: header if
      necessary, perhaps after consultation with the author.
 
    - Reviews by people with vested interests will be permitted
      provided that they are substantive and that reviewers make
      explicit any financial connection they have with the subject of
      their review.


HISTORY OF THE GROUP:
HISTORY OF THE GROUP:


rec.video.professional is a moderated newsgroup which passed its vote for
rec.arts.books.reviews is a moderated newsgroup which passed its vote for
creation by 201:14 as reported in news.announce.newgroups on 14 Aug 1995.
creation by 286:6 as reported in news.announce.newgroups on 1 Nov 1994.


PROPONENT:
PROPONENT:
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CHANGE HISTORY:
CHANGE HISTORY:


2010-05-20 Probe post
2010-04-05 First probe post
2010-08-09 Moderator Vacancy Investigation
2010-08-09 Moderator Vacancy Investigation
2010-08-23 1st RFD
2010-08-23 1st RFD

Latest revision as of 22:57, 13 March 2011

From: Big-8 Management Board <board@big-8.org>
Subject: RESULT: rec.arts.books.reviews will be removed
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2010 15:26:32 EDT
Message-ID: <i8qepv$bet$1@news.albasani.net>

                              RESULT
              rec.arts.books.reviews will be removed

The Last Call for Comments (LCC) on 2010-10-02 initiated a five-day
period for final comments.  Following this comment period, the Big-8
Management Board has decided by consensus to remove moderated group
rec.arts.books.reviews.

RATIONALE:

According to Google's archive the last regular post was approved on
2006-12-05. A probe message showed no result.

Miguel Farah posted in news.groups.proposals that the moderation is
not abandoned, yet the group is dead for all intents and purposes.
He thinks the newsgroup should be removed.

>Message-ID: <c4e91aae-3360-4dfd-bb8a-e76eb2d25e89@w30g2000yqw.googlegroups.com>

NEWSGROUPS LINE:

rec.arts.books.reviews	Book reviews. (Moderated)

DISTRIBUTION:

news.announce.newgroups
news.groups.proposals
rec.arts.books.reviews
rec.arts.books

CHARTER OF REC.ARTS.BOOKS.REVIEWS

The purpose of this group is to carry reviews of books.  A review
consists of commentary on a book by someone who has read the book
designed to help those who have not read it make an informed decision
as to whether or not to do so.  

This newsgroup will be a moderated group.

The following materials will appear in the group:

    - Reviews of written works
    - Descriptions of reviewer philosophy or background

The following are not appropriate for the group:
    
    - Discussion of books
    - Announcements of book availability
    - Advertisements and promotional materials
    - Requests that a particular book be reviewed

Reviewers who have a financial interest in the books they review
should state this fact in their reviews.

Moderator: 

The moderator will be Steve Brock <brock@ucsub.colorado.edu>.
The backup moderator will be Danny Yee <danny@staff.cs.su.oz.au>.

The submissions address is book-reviews@colorado.edu.  There is no
special contact address.  

Moderation policy:

The function of moderation is to ensure that only reviews and related
materials appear in the group.  

    - Reviews must contain some details.  For example, "XXX is a great
      book!" is not a review.

    - Posts will never be rejected on the basis of relevant content,
      but the moderator would reject (for example) a post that
      pretended to be a book review of _Lord of the Rings_ but was
      actually an excuse for an anti-Armenian diatribe.

    - A review MUST clearly indicate the title, author and publisher
      of the book.  A book review SHOULD contain the length,
      publication date, ISBN, price, and subject or keywords.  The
      more bibliographic data the better.  No specific format will be
      required for this data, though some format may be encouraged. 

    - Posters should crosspost reviews into rec.arts.books and other
      relevant groups.  Followups should be directed to the
      appropriate group(s) (rec.arts.books if nowhere else is
      suitable).  The moderator may modify the Followup-To: header if
      necessary, perhaps after consultation with the author.

    - Reviews by people with vested interests will be permitted
      provided that they are substantive and that reviewers make
      explicit any financial connection they have with the subject of
      their review.  

HISTORY OF THE GROUP:

rec.arts.books.reviews is a moderated newsgroup which passed its vote for
creation by 286:6 as reported in news.announce.newgroups on 1 Nov 1994.

PROPONENT:

Alexander Bartolich <alexander.bartolich@gmx.at>

CHANGE HISTORY:

2010-04-05	First probe post
2010-08-09	Moderator Vacancy Investigation
2010-08-23	1st RFD
2010-09-06	2nd RFD
2010-10-02	LCC
2010-10-09	RESULT