From Usenet Big-8 Management Board
From: The Big-8 Management Board <>
Subject: RESULT: policy to create a ninth newsgroup hierarchy - fails
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, news.groups.proposals
Followup-To: news.groups.proposals
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:58:50 -0500

           policy: create a ninth newsgroup hierarchy - fails

Following a period for comments begun with the Last Calls for Comments
posted on 24 Oct 2007, the Big-8 Management Board has decided by consensus
to NOT adopt the below-listed policy.


A new ninth hierarchy, will be created under the auspices of the Big 8
Management Board (B8MB).  The B8MB will ensure that proper control
messages are issued and that the hierarchy receives appropriate
publicity on its web site and elsewhere.

Oversight Policy

The B8MB will appoint a hierarchy manager to oversee day-to-day
management of the ninth hierarchy.  The B8MB may remove the hierarchy
manager at their discretion.

The hierarchy manager will decide the name of the hierarchy in
consultation with the B8MB.

The hierarchy manager may propose new groups, or removal of groups
that have failed.  The B8MB will have 7 days to veto any proposed
changes.  If they do not veto the proposed changes, the B8MB will
ensure that the control messages to effect the changes are sent, and
shall announce the changes in news.announce.newgroups.

Any member of the B8MB may place a hold on a proposed change during
the 7 day period, which will cause a single 7-day extension to the
period in which the proposed change is considered.  Only one extension
is permitted.

The B8MB may change any part of the oversight policy, or the policy
for the ninth hierarchy.  They are encouraged to hold public
discussion in news.groups.proposals prior to making any changes.

Policy For Ninth Hierarchy

Discussion of potential new groups, and other matters affecting the
ninth hierarchy should occur in <ninth>.config.

The hierarchy manager shall encourage simple methods for ordinary
users to propose potential groups.

No moderated newsgroups.

Group Names shall consist of 3 elements: (1) The hierarchy name; (2) A
broad topic area; (3) A topic name.  Longer names (not additional
elements) can be used if more definition is required.  The 3rd element
may be omitted if the group is intended as a general group for a broad
topic area.

No cross-posting.

No advertising, including no personal advertising.

No binaries.

Groups may have charters in the traditional sense that simply explain
what the topic of the newsgroup is.  They should not attempt to
establish "rules" for participation in the newsgroup.  Interested
persons may provide a charter of 250 words or less that can be placed
in newgroup control messages, web sites, etc.

Groups that do not have a reasonable amount of traffic after a
reasonable amount of time shall be removed.

Jump Start for Ninth Hierarchy

The hierarchy manager for the ninth hierarchy shall propose an initial
set of newsgroups that consists of at least 20 groups in addition to


This document has been posted to the following newsgroups:

  news.announce.newgroups (moderated)
  news.groups.proposals (moderated)


Jim Riley <>


2007-09-20     1st RFD
2007-10-24     2nd RFD/LCC
2007-10-30     Results (fails)