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From: The Big-8 Management Board <board@big-8.org><br />
Subject: 2nd RFD: remove comp.lang.basic.visual.announce moderated (LAST CALL FOR COMMENTS)<br />
Newsgroups: comp.lang.basic.misc, news.announce.newgroups,<br />
comp.lang.basic.visual.misc, news.groups.proposals,<br />
comp.lang.basic.visual.announce<br />
Followup-To: news.groups.proposals<br />
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 22:42:03 -0600<br />
Organization: http://www.big-8.org/<br />
<br />
REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)<br />
remove comp.lang.basic.visual.announce<br />
<br />
This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) to remove the moderated<br />
newsgroup comp.lang.basic.visual.announce.<br />
<br />
<br />
PROCEDURE:<br />
<br />
The B8MB plans to begin voting on this proposal after five days. Please<br />
offer any final discussion or comments before the end of this waiting<br />
period. Voting may take up to one week (7 days); a result will be posted<br />
following the end of the voting period.<br />
<br />
All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.proposals.<br />
<br />
The full group removal procedure is documented here:<br />
<br />
http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:rmgroup<br />
<br />
<br />
SUMMARY OF DISCUSSION:<br />
<br />
The only comments was that the group "was as dead as a Dodo."<br />
<br />
<br />
RATIONALE: remove comp.lang.basic.visual.announce<br />
<br />
There have been no messages approved by the moderator of the newsgroup<br />
since May 1997.<br />
<br />
In 1998, during discussion of an RFD to add (.16bit, .32bit, and<br />
.internet) groups to the comp.lang.basic.visual.* hierarchy, there was<br />
a suggestion made that either the .announce group should be removed or<br />
a new moderator found. The RFD for the additional groups was<br />
abandoned and no action with respect to the .announce group.<br />
<br />
Most mentions of comp.lang.basic.visual.announce since 1997 have been<br />
either simply including it in a list of Visual Basic groups; or as<br />
part of a complaint about posting an announcement to<br />
comp.lang.visual.basic.misc (even though no announcements had been<br />
approved to the .announce group in several years).<br />
<br />
There are at least 63 newsgroups related to Visual Basic in the<br />
microsoft.* hierarchy. With this level of support by the vendor,<br />
there may simply be little need for a Big 8 announcement group.<br />
<br />
Over the past 12 months, there have been more announcements posted to<br />
the non-Visual-Basic comp.lang.basic.* groups (.misc, .powerbasic, and<br />
.realbasic) than to the comp.lang.basic.visual.* groups. If there is<br />
a revival of the group, consideration should be made of renaming the<br />
group as comp.lang.basic.announce.<br />
<br />
<br />
HISTORY: <br />
<br />
The newsgroup comp.lang.basic.visual was created in January 1994. The<br />
newsgroup comp.lang.basic.misc was created at the same time (there was<br />
never a comp.lang.basic newsgroup).<br />
<br />
In October 1994, comp.lang.basic.visual was split into 3 unmoderated<br />
newsgroups (.3rdparty, .database, and .misc) and the moderated<br />
newsgroup comp.lang.basic.visual.announce).<br />
<br />
There were approvals in comp.lang.visual.announce from October 1994<br />
until January 1997. There have been rare cross-posted articles<br />
approved by moderators of other groups since then.<br />
<br />
The non-Visual-Basic groups, comp.lang.basic.powerbasic and<br />
comp.lang.basic.realbasic were created in August 1998 and December<br />
1998, respectively.<br />
<br />
<br />
DISTRIBUTION:<br />
<br />
This document has been posted to the following newsgroups:<br />
<br />
news.announce.newgroups<br />
news.groups.proposals<br />
comp.lang.basic.visual.announce<br />
comp.lang.basic.visual.misc<br />
comp.lang.basic.misc<br />
<br />
The proponent will also post pointers to:<br />
<br />
comp.lang.basic.powerbasic<br />
comp.lang.basic.realbasic<br />
comp.lang.basic.visual.3rdparty<br />
comp.lang.basic.visual.database<br />
<br />
<br />
CHARTER:<br />
<br />
The newsgroup line is:<br />
<br />
comp.lang.basic.visual.announce Official information on Visual Basic.<br />
<br />
Charter of news.announce.conferences (from CFV)<br />
<br />
Acceptable posts to this group would include FAQ posts, shareware<br />
announcements, other usenet administrative posts (like this<br />
entire discussion), etc...<br />
<br />
<br />
PROPONENT: <br />
<br />
Jim Riley <jimrtex@pipeline.com><br />
<br />
<br />
CHANGE HISTORY: <br />
<br />
2006-12-03 2nd RFD/LCC<br />
2006-11-08 1st RFD<br />
<br />
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