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From: board@big-8.org (Big 8 Management Board)&lt;br /&gt;
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups.proposals,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.apple2.comm&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: 3rd RFD: Remove comp.sys.apple2.comm - FINAL CALL FOR COMMENTS&lt;br /&gt;
Followup-To: news.groups.proposals&lt;br /&gt;
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 17:16:51 EST&lt;br /&gt;
Message-ID: &amp;lt;1ktp830.1fiuara9t0glkN%board@big-8.org&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
     THIRD REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)/LAST CALL FOR COMMENTS&lt;br /&gt;
     to remove the unmoderated newsgroup comp.sys.apple2.comm.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) to remove the unmoderated&lt;br /&gt;
newsgroup comp.sys.apple2.comm.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
NEWSGROUPS LINE:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
comp.sys.apple2.comm    Apple II data communications.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
DISTRIBUTION:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
        news.announce.newgroups&lt;br /&gt;
        news.groups.proposals&lt;br /&gt;
        comp.sys.apple2&lt;br /&gt;
        comp.sys.apple2.comm&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
PROPONENT: D. Finnigan &amp;lt;dog_cow@macgui.com&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
CHARTER:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
        === &lt;br /&gt;
        === CHARTER:  comp.sys.apple2.comm (unmoderated) &lt;br /&gt;
        === &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
        The original proposal called for the &amp;quot;comp.sys.apple2.bbs&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
        newsgroup.  The new name is offered here as a more accurate &lt;br /&gt;
        alternative.  Topics suitable for discussion in csa2.comm&lt;br /&gt;
        include (but are not limited to):&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
        1. Telecommunications software (ProTERM, ANSITerm, ZLink, TIC,&lt;br /&gt;
        etc.) &lt;br /&gt;
        2. Bulletin board software (METAL/FutureVision, ProLine, Warp&lt;br /&gt;
        Six, GBBS Pro, Prime, etc.) &lt;br /&gt;
        3. Online services (GEnie, CompuServe, America Online, etc.) &lt;br /&gt;
        4. Telecommunications hardware (high-speed modems, building&lt;br /&gt;
        cables, selecting a serial card, etc.) &lt;br /&gt;
        5. Networking (AppleShare, LocalTalk, Ethertalk, CAP, etc.) &lt;br /&gt;
        6. Cross-platform connectivity (IBM-to-Apple,&lt;br /&gt;
        Apple-to-Macintosh, Apple-to-UNIX via UUCP, etc.) &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
       This proposal also calls for the merging of the &amp;quot;a2bbs&amp;quot; mailing &lt;br /&gt;
       list, currently maintained by Doug Granzow on the ProLine BBS&lt;br /&gt;
        network system.  Creation of csa2.comm will expand the&lt;br /&gt;
        distribution of this popular mailing list (over 100 readers) to&lt;br /&gt;
        the Usenet domain. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
RATIONAL FOR REMOVAL:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
        Posting volume had dropped to little more than two FAQ posts per&lt;br /&gt;
        month since 2007. FAQ posting ceased in December 2010 and the&lt;br /&gt;
        group had 2 posts in all of 2011 one of which was off-topic, and&lt;br /&gt;
        2 posts so far for this year, both of which were off-topic.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
        Discussions of Apple II systems and software can take place in&lt;br /&gt;
        the main comp.sys.apple2 newsgroup, which has a far wider&lt;br /&gt;
        readership and posting volume. As the catch-all newsgroup for&lt;br /&gt;
        the Apple II, all on-topic posts in csa2.comm would also be&lt;br /&gt;
        on-topic for comp.sys.apple2.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
        Whereas the rise of broadband Internet has all but extinguished&lt;br /&gt;
        the use of modems and telehpone-based communications, and being&lt;br /&gt;
        that the Apple II computer system is obsolete, it is improbable&lt;br /&gt;
        that the volume of on-topic discussions will ever increase in&lt;br /&gt;
        comp.sys.apple2.comm.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
DISCUSSION SO FAR:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
        There has been one post supporting the removal of this newsgroup&lt;br /&gt;
        from Linards Ticmanis. Message-ID:&lt;br /&gt;
        &amp;lt;507dd6ef$0$6547$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
HISTORY OF THE GROUP:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
        comp.sys.apple2.comm is an unmoderated newsgroup which passed&lt;br /&gt;
        its vote for creation by 259:38 as reported in&lt;br /&gt;
        news.announce.newgroups on 28 May 1993.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
        For your newsgroups file: &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
        comp.sys.apple2.comm            Apple II data communications.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
PROCEDURE:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Those who wish to comment on this request to remove this newsgroup&lt;br /&gt;
should subscribe to news:news.groups.proposals and participate in the&lt;br /&gt;
relevant threads in that newsgroup.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To this end, the followup header of this RFD has been set to &lt;br /&gt;
news.groups.proposals.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
All discussion of active proposals should be posted to &lt;br /&gt;
news.groups.proposals.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If desired by the readership of closely affected groups, the discussion&lt;br /&gt;
may be crossposted to those groups, but care must be taken to ensure&lt;br /&gt;
that all&lt;br /&gt;
discussion appears in news.groups.proposals as well.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For more information on the newsgroup removal process, please see &lt;br /&gt;
http://www.big-8.org/wiki/Removing_newsgroups&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
History of this RFD:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2012-11-17: LCC&lt;br /&gt;
2012-10-26: Revised for 2nd RFD&lt;br /&gt;
2012-10-16: Initial proposal&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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