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From: D. Finnigan &amp;lt;dog_cow@macgui.com&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups.proposals,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.apple2.comm&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: 2nd RFD: Remove comp.sys.apple2.comm&lt;br /&gt;
Followup-To: news.groups.proposals&lt;br /&gt;
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 14:02:00 EDT&lt;br /&gt;
Message-ID: &amp;lt;2ndrfd-remove-csa2.comm-2012-10-26@macgui.com&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) to remove the &lt;br /&gt;
unmoderated newsgroup comp.sys.apple2.comm.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Newsgroups Line:&lt;br /&gt;
comp.sys.apple2.comm	Apple II data communications.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Distribution:&lt;br /&gt;
	news.announce.newgroups&lt;br /&gt;
	news.groups.proposals&lt;br /&gt;
	comp.sys.apple2&lt;br /&gt;
	comp.sys.apple2.comm&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Proponent: D. Finnigan &amp;lt;dog_cow@macgui.com&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Charter:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
	=== &lt;br /&gt;
        === CHARTER:  comp.sys.apple2.comm (unmoderated) &lt;br /&gt;
        === &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
        The original proposal called for the &amp;quot;comp.sys.apple2.bbs&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
        newsgroup.  The new name is offered here as a more accurate &lt;br /&gt;
        alternative.  Topics suitable for discussion in csa2.comm include (but&lt;br /&gt;
        are not limited to): &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 	 1. Telecommunications software (ProTERM, ANSITerm, ZLink, TIC, etc.) &lt;br /&gt;
 	 2. Bulletin board software (METAL/FutureVision, ProLine, Warp Six, &lt;br /&gt;
 	      GBBS Pro, Prime, etc.) &lt;br /&gt;
 	 3. Online services (GEnie, CompuServe, America Online, etc.) &lt;br /&gt;
 	 4. Telecommunications hardware (high-speed modems, building cables, &lt;br /&gt;
 	      selecting a serial card, etc.) &lt;br /&gt;
 	 5. Networking (AppleShare, LocalTalk, Ethertalk, CAP, etc.) &lt;br /&gt;
 	 6. Cross-platform connectivity (IBM-to-Apple, Apple-to-Macintosh, &lt;br /&gt;
 	      Apple-to-UNIX via UUCP, etc.) &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
        This proposal also calls for the merging of the &amp;quot;a2bbs&amp;quot; mailing &lt;br /&gt;
        list, currently maintained by Doug Granzow on the ProLine BBS network &lt;br /&gt;
        system.  Creation of csa2.comm will expand the distribution of this &lt;br /&gt;
        popular mailing list (over 100 readers) to the Usenet domain. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Rationale for removal:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
	Posting volume had dropped to little more than two FAQ posts per month&lt;br /&gt;
        since 2007. FAQ posting ceased in December 2010 and the group had 2 &lt;br /&gt;
        posts in all of 2011 one of which was off-topic, and 2 posts so far&lt;br /&gt;
        for this year, both of which were off-topic.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
        Discussions of Apple II systems and software can take place in the&lt;br /&gt;
        main comp.sys.apple2 newsgroup, which has a far wider readership and&lt;br /&gt;
        posting volume. As the catch-all newsgroup for the Apple II, all&lt;br /&gt;
        on-topic posts in csa2.comm would also be on-topic for comp.sys.apple2.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
        Whereas the rise of broadband Internet has all but extinguished the&lt;br /&gt;
        use of modems and telehpone-based communications, and being that the&lt;br /&gt;
        Apple II computer system is obsolete, it is improbable that the volume&lt;br /&gt;
        of on-topic discussions will ever increase in comp.sys.apple2.comm.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Discussion so far:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
	There has been one post supporting the removal of this newsgroup&lt;br /&gt;
	from Linards Ticmanis. Message-ID:&lt;br /&gt;
	&amp;lt;507dd6ef$0$6547$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
History of the Group:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
	comp.sys.apple2.comm is an unmoderated newsgroup which passed its vote for &lt;br /&gt;
	creation by 259:38 as reported in news.announce.newgroups on 28 May 1993.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
	For your newsgroups file: &lt;br /&gt;
	comp.sys.apple2.comm            Apple II data communications.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Procedure:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Those who wish to comment on this request to remove this newsgroup should &lt;br /&gt;
subscribe to news:news.groups.proposals and participate in the relevant threads in &lt;br /&gt;
that newsgroup.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To this end, the followup header of this RFD has been set to &lt;br /&gt;
news.groups.proposals.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
All discussion of active proposals should be posted to &lt;br /&gt;
news.groups.proposals.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If desired by the readership of closely affected groups, the discussion may be&lt;br /&gt;
crossposted to those groups, but care must be taken to ensure that all&lt;br /&gt;
discussion appears in news.groups.proposals as well.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For more information on the newsgroup removal process, please see &lt;br /&gt;
http://www.big-8.org/wiki/Removing_newsgroups&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
History of this RFD:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2012-10-26: Revised for 2nd RFD&lt;br /&gt;
2012-10-16: Initial proposal&lt;br /&gt;
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