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		<title>Tristan Miller: Created page with &quot;&lt;pre&gt; From: board@big-8.org (Big 8 Management Board) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups.proposals,soc.org.freemasonry Subject: 2nd RFD soc.org.freemasonry moderat...&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt; From: board@big-8.org (Big 8 Management Board) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups.proposals,soc.org.freemasonry Subject: 2nd RFD soc.org.freemasonry moderat...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
From: board@big-8.org (Big 8 Management Board)&lt;br /&gt;
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups.proposals,soc.org.freemasonry&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: 2nd RFD soc.org.freemasonry moderated (remove) - LAST CALL FOR COMMENTS&lt;br /&gt;
Followup-To: news.groups.proposals&lt;br /&gt;
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 10:04:08 EST&lt;br /&gt;
Message-ID: &amp;lt;mb1585$3l5$1%board@big-8.org&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
		    2nd REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)&lt;br /&gt;
 moderated group soc.org.freemasonry (remove) - LAST CALL FOR COMMENTS&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) to remove the moderated&lt;br /&gt;
newsgroup soc.org.freemasonry.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The B8MB plans to begin voting on this proposal after five days.  Please&lt;br /&gt;
offer any final discussion or comments before the end of this waiting&lt;br /&gt;
period.  Voting may take up to one week (7 days); a result will be&lt;br /&gt;
posted following the end of the voting period.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.proposals.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For more information on the newsgroup removal process, please see&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.big-8.org/articles/p/r/o/Procedure_to_remove_newsgroups.html&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
NEWSGROUPS LINE:&lt;br /&gt;
soc.org.freemasonry	Discussion group for the Fraternity &amp;quot;Freemasonry&amp;quot;. (Moderated)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
RATIONALE:&lt;br /&gt;
Probe posts to this group result in bounces:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    &amp;lt;soc-org-freemasonry@moderators.isc.org&amp;gt;: host&lt;br /&gt;
    moderators.individual.net[130.133.4.7] said: 550-Callout verification&lt;br /&gt;
    failed: 550-550 5.1.1 &amp;lt;sof@mail.cybermango.org&amp;gt;: Recipient address&lt;br /&gt;
    rejected: 550 User unknown in local recipient table (in reply to RCPT TO&lt;br /&gt;
    command)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The last article approved by the moderators, with Message ID&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;004f195b-0f15-4c81-818a-99cb524d7d6a@googlegroups.com&amp;gt;, appeared in&lt;br /&gt;
December of 2012, over two years ago.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One of the last articles posted to the newsgroup, in March of 2012, was&lt;br /&gt;
from moderator Alan Schwartz, with Message ID&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;lsSdnZX80NVkNPvSnZ2dnUVZ_gKdnZ2d@supernews.com&amp;gt;, announcing that the&lt;br /&gt;
members of the moderation team were planning to quit moderating the&lt;br /&gt;
newsgroup.  Volunteers were solicited to take over the moderation of the&lt;br /&gt;
newsgroup.  The possibility of a Moderator Vacancy Investigation was&lt;br /&gt;
also mentioned.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
DISCUSSION SO FAR:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In response to the original Moderator Vacancy Investigation and the 1st&lt;br /&gt;
Request for Discussion, no followup to news.groups.proposals has been&lt;br /&gt;
posted volunteering to serve as a replacement moderator or moderators,&lt;br /&gt;
or inquiring about volunteering.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
DISTRIBUTION:&lt;br /&gt;
news.announce.newgroups&lt;br /&gt;
news.groups.proposals&lt;br /&gt;
soc.org.freemasonry&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
CHARTER:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The purpose of this newsgroup is to provide a world wide Usenet forum&lt;br /&gt;
for the discussion of Freemasonry, the oldest fraternity in the world&lt;br /&gt;
with a membership of over five million world-wide which derive their&lt;br /&gt;
charters from Grand Lodges on their continent.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The newsgroup is not a vehicle for official pronouncements for any&lt;br /&gt;
Masonic body, but a means to facilitate the interaction and promote&lt;br /&gt;
the brotherhood of members of Masonic bodies.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The newsgroup is meant to supplement, not replace, any already&lt;br /&gt;
existing Internet or Usenet or newsgroup system devoted to members of&lt;br /&gt;
Freemasonry.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The purpose of the panel of arbitrators is to supervise the panel of&lt;br /&gt;
moderators and facilitate any concerns the readers may have with the&lt;br /&gt;
moderation.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The purpose of the panel of moderators is to supervise and manage the&lt;br /&gt;
Usenet newsgroup for Freemasonry, in order to provide a reasonable&lt;br /&gt;
and responsible forum for discussion about and news for freemasonry.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The following are the editorial policies:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
General Usenet &amp;quot;netiquette&amp;quot; guidelines as posted in&lt;br /&gt;
news.announce.newusers and news.answers shall apply to this news&lt;br /&gt;
group.  In particular, participants are asked to show courtesy and&lt;br /&gt;
respect for other participants, and to avoid the use of offensive&lt;br /&gt;
language, excessive quoting, or long (defined as &amp;quot;over four lines&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
signature blocks.  Participants are encouraged to use descriptive&lt;br /&gt;
subjects.  Examples are &amp;quot;New York Metro area:I seek sponsorship into a&lt;br /&gt;
lodge,&amp;quot; rather than &amp;quot;Help me join;&amp;quot;  &amp;quot;Royal Arch Questions on&lt;br /&gt;
Traditional Bible Passages,&amp;quot; rather than &amp;quot;Royal Arch questions;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Should felons be allowed to join,&amp;quot; rather than &amp;quot;a question on Masonic&lt;br /&gt;
qualifications.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The following posts are strictly prohibited in this newsgroup:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  + Posts consisting of copyrighted materials, except portions used&lt;br /&gt;
    under fair quote provisions of copyright law&lt;br /&gt;
  + Excessively long posts (over 25kB.)&lt;br /&gt;
  + Messages cross posted to other newsgroups.&lt;br /&gt;
  + Material unrelated to Speculative Masonry (off topic).&lt;br /&gt;
  + Make money fast or other chain or fraudulent schemes or&lt;br /&gt;
    anything else defined as an illegal communication by majority of&lt;br /&gt;
    the governments where Usenet carries this news group.&lt;br /&gt;
  + Work at home or other off-topic scams.&lt;br /&gt;
  + Commercial advertisements, infomercials, or announcements with&lt;br /&gt;
    the exception of one-line pointers to off-newsgroup cyberspace of&lt;br /&gt;
    interest to Freemasons.&lt;br /&gt;
  + Binaries or other encoded/encrypted material.&lt;br /&gt;
  + Posts in a language the moderators cannot read. For the most&lt;br /&gt;
    part posts should be limited to English, however posts containing&lt;br /&gt;
    a language other than English with English translation are the&lt;br /&gt;
    exception to this rule.&lt;br /&gt;
  + Forged posts (anonymous posts allowed.)&lt;br /&gt;
  + Personal insults or written attacks on specific Masons or&lt;br /&gt;
    Masons in general.&lt;br /&gt;
  + Personal insults or written attacks upon anyone and/or any&lt;br /&gt;
    organization.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Responsible criticisms are welcome.  E.g., &amp;quot;all you masons are a bunch&lt;br /&gt;
of lying, devil-worshipping fools.&amp;quot; is not allowed.  &amp;quot;According to&lt;br /&gt;
book (title, author, publication year) your ritual is identical to the&lt;br /&gt;
ritual of organized satanist&amp;#039;s (particularly :x,y,z).  Since I find&lt;br /&gt;
this book to be credible I believe your fraternity to be&lt;br /&gt;
misrepresenting itself,&amp;quot;  is allowed.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The following posts are allowed, but not encouraged.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  + &amp;quot;Classified&amp;quot; style ads with descriptive subject.&lt;br /&gt;
    Examples are &amp;quot;WTB:Masonic memorabilia related to the freeing of&lt;br /&gt;
    debt of the NYGL building in Manhattan,&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;FS:second-hand books&lt;br /&gt;
    on masonry,&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;WTB:tobacco pipe with Masonic design.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 +  Moderators will use their discretion concerning posts that may&lt;br /&gt;
    contain Masonic secrets. Posts purporting to reveal Masonic&lt;br /&gt;
    secrets will be rejected outright, regardless of whether or not&lt;br /&gt;
    the fact of revelation of secrets be explicit or implied.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
                   ARBITRATION/MODERATION POLICIES&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Arbitration Structure/Procedures:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  1) There will be a panel of three arbitrators to provide checks&lt;br /&gt;
     against the moderators.&lt;br /&gt;
  2) Arbitrators may not serve as moderators.&lt;br /&gt;
  3) In the event between a dispute of moderators, or in the event of&lt;br /&gt;
     moderators being accused of censorship by participants, a single&lt;br /&gt;
     arbitrator will collect all sides of the event and present it to&lt;br /&gt;
     the other two arbitrators.  A simple majority vote will decide&lt;br /&gt;
     the issue. If an arbitrator&amp;#039;s panel vote comes out against a&lt;br /&gt;
     moderator&amp;#039;s actions, the arbitrators panel will remedy a&lt;br /&gt;
     participant&amp;#039;s complaint by requiring the posting of the original&lt;br /&gt;
     article, however, this will not be construed as restricting the&lt;br /&gt;
     arbitrator&amp;#039;s panel from pursuing other remedies as it sees fit.&lt;br /&gt;
  4) Quorum shall be the entirety of the panel of arbitrators.&lt;br /&gt;
     Physical presence will not be required to vote, electronic&lt;br /&gt;
     delivery of vote is acceptable for all purposes.&lt;br /&gt;
  5) An arbitrator may be impeached and removed by moderators.&lt;br /&gt;
     In order to do this the moderators will need to establish a&lt;br /&gt;
     2/3 quorum and a 2/3 majority vote.&lt;br /&gt;
  6) To qualify to be an arbitrator, a person must be a Mason in good&lt;br /&gt;
     standing with his lodge which is defined as a lodge of Free and&lt;br /&gt;
     Accepted Masons or a lodge of Ancient Free and Accepted Masons&lt;br /&gt;
     which is chartered under the provisions of a grand body of masons&lt;br /&gt;
     considered to have regular jurisdiction in the volunteer&amp;#039;s&lt;br /&gt;
     geographical location.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Moderation Structure/Procedures:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  1) There will always be a minimum of two moderators in case illness&lt;br /&gt;
     or absence of one moderator.&lt;br /&gt;
  2) Prior to becoming a moderator, the moderator agrees to abide by&lt;br /&gt;
     the rulings of the arbitrators&amp;#039; panel.&lt;br /&gt;
  3) To qualify to be a moderator, a person must be a Mason in good&lt;br /&gt;
     standing with his lodge which is defined as a lodge of Free and&lt;br /&gt;
     Accepted Masons or a lodge of Ancient Free and Accepted Masons&lt;br /&gt;
     which is chartered under the provisions of a grand body of masons&lt;br /&gt;
     considered to have regular jurisdiction in the volunteer&amp;#039;s&lt;br /&gt;
     geographical location.&lt;br /&gt;
  4) The arbitrators&amp;#039; panel reserves the right to verify this with the&lt;br /&gt;
     lodge secretary of the volunteer by means of telephone, snail&lt;br /&gt;
     mail, fax, or computerized message.&lt;br /&gt;
  5) Moderators may not serve as Arbitrators.&lt;br /&gt;
  6) Moderators may ban a participant if a participant attempts to&lt;br /&gt;
     violate editorial policy three or more times. In order to do this&lt;br /&gt;
     the moderators  need to establish a simple majority quorum with a&lt;br /&gt;
     simple majority vote.&lt;br /&gt;
  7) A moderator may be impeached and removed by the arbitrators. The&lt;br /&gt;
     arbitrators need to show cause, establish a unanimous quorum with&lt;br /&gt;
     a simple majority vote to do this.  In events of legal charge a&lt;br /&gt;
     single arbitrator may suspend a moderator for a period not&lt;br /&gt;
     exceeding one month in order to facilitate a investigation.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Amendments:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Any part of this charter may be amended or the charter may be added to&lt;br /&gt;
by a 2/3 quorum with a 2/3 majority vote of all officers which is&lt;br /&gt;
defined as the arbitrators and moderators.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
END CHARTER.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
HISTORY OF THE GROUP:  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
         moderated group soc.org.freemasonry passes 171:56&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There were 171 YES votes and 56 NO votes, for a total of 227 valid&lt;br /&gt;
votes.  There were 5 abstains and 5 invalid ballots.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES&lt;br /&gt;
and NO) votes.  There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO&lt;br /&gt;
votes.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Voting ended at 23:59:59 UTC, 20 Jun 1997.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The group was created shortly afterwards, and continued activity until&lt;br /&gt;
December of 2012, after which no further approved articles appeared.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
PROPONENT:  Paul W. Schleck &amp;lt;pschleck@novia.net&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
CHANGE HISTORY:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 3 January  2015:  Moderator Vacancy Investigation&lt;br /&gt;
18 January  2015:  1st RFD (remove)&lt;br /&gt;
 5 February 2015:  LCC&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Tristan Miller</name></author>
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