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From: "Paul W. Schleck" <pschleck@novia.net><br />
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups.proposals,rec.radio.info,rec.radio.noncomm<br />
Subject: 2nd RFD: Remove rec.radio.noncomm<br />
Followup-To: news.groups.proposals<br />
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 09:37:46 EST<br />
Message-ID: <rfd-remove-rec-radio-noncomm-2013-01-26@novia.net><br />
<br />
This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) to remove the unmoderated<br />
newsgroup rec.radio.noncomm.<br />
<br />
Newsgroups Line:<br />
Topics relating to noncommercial radio.<br />
<br />
Distribution:<br />
news.announce.newgroups<br />
news.groups.proposals<br />
rec.radio.info<br />
rec.radio.noncomm<br />
<br />
The proponent will also post pointers to this RFD to:<br />
<br />
alt.radio.broadcasting<br />
alt.radio.college<br />
alt.radio.networks.npr<br />
rec.radio.broadcasting (Moderated)<br />
<br />
Proponent: Paul W. Schleck <pschleck@novia.net><br />
<br />
Charter:<br />
<br />
rec.radio.noncomm unmoderated discussion of noncommercial radio.<br />
<br />
Subjects discussed might include<br />
- non-commercial AM/FM radio of the college and NPR variety<br />
- carrier current and cable based radio<br />
- do trade journals such as CMJ and Rockpool manipulate or aid?<br />
- upcoming conventions such as the Nat'l Assoc. of Broadcasters/BEA<br />
meeting in Atlanta and the Intercollegiate Broadcasters Society in NY<br />
- the newly released "Public Radio in the 1990s" report by The Public<br />
Radio Expansion Task Force<br />
- the FCC and its regulations<br />
- obtaining and managing non-commercial grants<br />
<br />
Rationale for removal:<br />
<br />
A low-volume newsgroup for many years, activity on rec.radio.noncomm has<br />
recently diminished to just an arguably off-topic periodic bulletin with<br />
a subject of "Top 10 Dance Chart", that does not appear to correspond to<br />
any current programming on any radio station or network, that is also<br />
widely and indiscriminantly crossposted to many other radio and music<br />
newsgroups. The last two on-topic posts to the newsgroup were on<br />
September 15, 2010 and May 4, 2007. The last two on-topic posts to the<br />
newsgroup that generated on-topic followup discussion were on March 19,<br />
2007 and July 30, 2005. Therefore, there have been no on-topic posts<br />
without followup discussion in over two years, no on-topic posts with<br />
followup discussion in over five years, and judging from the minimal<br />
on-topic posting history over at least the last ten years, there is no<br />
realistic chance of significant on-topic activity returning.<br />
<br />
Discussion so far:<br />
<br />
In response to the initial RFD, no followup to either rec.radio.noncomm<br />
or news.groups.proposals has been posted after 10 days, suggesting that<br />
no one is reading rec.radio.noncomm, or that no one objects to its<br />
removal, or both.<br />
<br />
History of the Group:<br />
<br />
rec.radio.noncomm is an unmoderated newsgroup which passed its<br />
vote for creation by 143:30 as reported in<br />
news.groups on March 21, 1990.<br />
<br />
For your newsgroups file:<br />
rec.radio.noncomm Topics relating to noncommercial radio.<br />
<br />
The charter, culled from the call for votes:<br />
rec.radio.noncomm unmoderated discussion of noncommercial radio.<br />
<br />
Subjects discussed might include<br />
- non-commercial AM/FM radio of the college and NPR variety<br />
- carrier current and cable based radio<br />
- do trade journals such as CMJ and Rockpool manipulate or aid?<br />
- upcoming conventions such as the Nat'l Assoc. of Broadcasters/BEA<br />
meeting in Atlanta and the Intercollegiate Broadcasters Society in NY<br />
- the newly released "Public Radio in the 1990s" report by The Public<br />
Radio Expansion Task Force<br />
- the FCC and its regulations<br />
- obtaining and managing non-commercial grants<br />
<br />
Procedure:<br />
<br />
Those who wish to comment on this request to remove this newsgroup<br />
should subscribe to news:news.groups.proposals and participate in the<br />
relevant threads in that newsgroup.<br />
<br />
To this end, the followup header of this RFD has been set to<br />
news.groups.proposals.<br />
<br />
All discussion of active proposals should be posted to<br />
news.groups.proposals.<br />
<br />
If desired by the readership of closely affected groups, the discussion<br />
may be crossposted to those groups, but care must be taken to ensure<br />
that all discussion appears in news.groups.proposals as well.<br />
<br />
For more information on the newsgroup removal process, please see<br />
http://www.big-8.org/wiki/Removing_newsgroups<br />
<br />
History of this RFD:<br />
<br />
2013-01-26: Revised for 2nd RFD - Added additional pointer newsgroups<br />
2013-01-16: Initial proposal<br />
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