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		<title>Sbonine: Created page with &quot;&lt;pre&gt; From: Big-8 Management Board &lt;board@big-8.org&gt; Subject: 1st RFD: The Great Downsizing 2011/1 Message-ID: &lt;great-downsizing-2011-1-rfd-1@news.albasani.net&gt;                RE...&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt; From: Big-8 Management Board &amp;lt;board@big-8.org&amp;gt; Subject: 1st RFD: The Great Downsizing 2011/1 Message-ID: &amp;lt;great-downsizing-2011-1-rfd-1@news.albasani.net&amp;gt;                RE...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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From: Big-8 Management Board &amp;lt;board@big-8.org&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: 1st RFD: The Great Downsizing 2011/1&lt;br /&gt;
Message-ID: &amp;lt;great-downsizing-2011-1-rfd-1@news.albasani.net&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
              REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) to remove the following&lt;br /&gt;
198 unmoderated newsgroups.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
RATIONALE:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
All groups listed below fulfill these conditions:&lt;br /&gt;
- no moderated groups&lt;br /&gt;
- no group names matching *.misc&lt;br /&gt;
- zero on-topic, non-crossposted threads in the past 18 months&lt;br /&gt;
- on-topic questions that received no on-topic answer do not count&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
DISTRIBUTION:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
news.announce.newgroups&lt;br /&gt;
news.groups.proposals&lt;br /&gt;
news.groups&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Because of the magnitude of the group list this proposal is not cross-&lt;br /&gt;
posted to target groups. In the course of these proceedings the B8MB&lt;br /&gt;
will post pointers to this announcement to appropriate groups. Readers&lt;br /&gt;
are encouraged to take initiative and spread the message.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
PROCEDURE:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The procedure shall take at least 8 weeks, with announcements posted&lt;br /&gt;
every 4 weeks: 1st RFD, 2nd RFD, and LCC. The group lists may be re-&lt;br /&gt;
vised during this stage. Discussion about candidate groups should take&lt;br /&gt;
place in moderated group news.groups.proposals. After publication of&lt;br /&gt;
the LCC the board votes on each newsgroup individually.&lt;br /&gt;
More details can be found here:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  http://www.big-8.org/wiki/Mass_removal_of_groups&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
NEWSGROUP LINES:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
comp.arch.bus.vmebus		Hardware and software for VMEbus Systems.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.archives.msdos.d		Discussion of materials available in MSDOS archives.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.bbs.tbbs		The Bread Board System bulletin board software.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.bbs.tsx		TSX BBS discussions.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.bugs.2bsd		Reports of UNIX* version 2BSD related bugs.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.bugs.4bsd		Reports of UNIX version 4BSD related bugs.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.bugs.sys5		Reports of USG (System III, V, etc.) bugs.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.compilers.tools.pccts		Construction of compilers and tools with PCCTS.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.databases.revelation		All products produced by Revelation Software.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.dcom.frame-relay		Technology and issues regarding frame relay networks.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.dcom.isdn		The Integrated Services Digital Network (ISDN).&lt;br /&gt;
comp.dcom.lans.fddi		Discussions of the FDDI protocol suite.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.dcom.lans.token-ring		Installing and using token ring networks.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.dcom.servers		Selecting and operating data communications servers.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.dcom.sys.bay-networks		Bay Networks hardware, software, other products.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.emulators.freemware		Open source PC Virtualisation software.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.emulators.mac.executor		ARDI&amp;#039;s Mac emulator, Executor.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.games.development.art		Creative use of visual art in games.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.games.development.audio		Music, sound, speech production.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.graphics.api.inventor		Object-oriented 3D graphics in Inventor.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.graphics.api.pexlib		The PEXlib application programming interface.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.graphics.apps.avs		The Application Visualization System.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.graphics.apps.data-explorer		IBM&amp;#039;s Visualization Data Explorer (DX).&lt;br /&gt;
comp.graphics.apps.freehand		Questions, answers, tips and suggestions.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.graphics.apps.iris-explorer		The IRIS Explorer, aka MVE.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.graphics.apps.softimage		Softimage applications and products.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.graphics.apps.wavefront		Wavefront software products, problems, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.groupware.groupwise		Novell&amp;#039;s Groupwise product (Wordperfect Office).&lt;br /&gt;
comp.infosystems.harvest		Harvest information discovery and access system.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.infosystems.interpedia		The Internet Encyclopedia.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.infosystems.intranet		Intranet topics.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.infosystems.www.advocacy		Comments and arguments over the best and worst.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.infosystems.www.databases		Web Database Integration.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.infosystems.www.servers.mac		Web servers for the Macintosh platform.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.internet.services.social.myspace		Teenage social networking.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.ivideodisc		Interactive videodiscs -- uses, potential, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.lang.basic.visual.3rdparty		Add-ins for Visual Basic.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.lang.limbo		The Inferno OS&amp;#039;s Limbo programming language.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.lang.lisp.mcl		Discussing Apple&amp;#039;s Macintosh Common Lisp.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.lang.pascal.delphi.advocacy		Contentious issues related to Delphi.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.lang.pascal.delphi.components.usage		Using pre-written components.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.lang.pascal.delphi.components.writing		Writing Delphi components.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.lang.sather		The object-oriented computer language Sather.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.lsi.cad		Electrical Computer Aided Design.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.mail.list-admin.policy		Policy issues in running mailing lists.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.mail.mush		The Mail User&amp;#039;s Shell (MUSH).&lt;br /&gt;
comp.mail.smail		Administering &amp;amp; using the smail email transport system.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.mail.zmail		The various Z-Mail products and their configurability.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.org.cpsr.talk		Issues of computing and social responsibility.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.org.decus		Digital Equipment Computer Users&amp;#039; Society newsgroup.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.org.eff.talk		Discussion of EFF goals, strategies, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.org.issnnet		The International Student Society for Neural Networks.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.org.sug		Talk about/for the The Sun User&amp;#039;s Group.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.org.user-groups.apcug		Association of Personal Computer User Groups.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.org.user-groups.management		Running a user group.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.org.user-groups.newsletters		User group newsletter Production.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.os.chorus		CHORUS microkernel issues, research and developments.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.os.inferno		The Inferno network operating system from Lucent.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.os.lantastic		The LANtastic network operating system.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.os.ms-windows.apps.comm		MS-Windows communication applications.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.os.ms-windows.apps.compatibility.win95		Running DOS&amp;amp;Win3 apps in Win95.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities.win3x		Utility/add-on programs for Win3.x.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.os.ms-windows.apps.winsock.mail		Winsock email applications.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.os.ms-windows.apps.winsock.news		Winsock news applications.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.os.ms-windows.networking.ras		Windows RAS networking.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy		Windows NT advocacy arguments.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.pre-release		Unreleased and beta Windows NT versions.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware		Windows NT hardware setup.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.os.ms-windows.pre-release		Pre-release/beta versions of Windows.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.multimedia		Multimedia programming.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools.owl		OWL-based development for Windows.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.winhelp		WinHelp/Multimedia Viewer development.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.os.ms-windows.setup.win3x		Setup, hardware, and driver issues in Win3.x.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.os.ms-windows.setup.win95		Setup, hardware, and driver issues in Win95.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup		Setup and Configuration of Windows 95.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.os.msdos.mail-news		Administering mail &amp;amp; network news systems under MS-DOS.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.os.netware.security		Netware Security issues.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.os.os2.comm		Modem/Fax hardware/drivers/apps/utils under OS/2.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.os.os2.programmer.oop		Programming system objects (SOM, WPS, etc).&lt;br /&gt;
comp.os.os2.scitech		Real-time, engineering/CAD, sciences, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.os.parix		Forum for users of the parallel operating system PARIX.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.os.xinu		The XINU operating system from Purdue (D. Comer).&lt;br /&gt;
comp.protocols.appletalk		Applebus hardware &amp;amp; software.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.protocols.ibm		Networking with IBM mainframes.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.protocols.iso		The ISO protocol stack.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.publish.cdrom.multimedia		Software for multimedia authoring &amp;amp; publishing.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.publish.electronic.developer		Electronic publishing developer tools.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.publish.electronic.end-user		Electronic publishing end-user tools.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.security.gss-api		Generic Security Service Application Program Interface.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.security.pgp.resources		PGP related resources, information and more.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.society		The impact of technology on society.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.society.development		Computer technology in developing countries.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.soft-sys.app-builder.appware		Novell&amp;#039;s visual development environment.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.soft-sys.app-builder.dynasty		Dynasty Development.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.soft-sys.khoros		The Khoros X11 visualization system.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.soft-sys.middleware.opendoc		OpenDoc and its related technologies.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.soft-sys.shazam		The SHAZAM econometrics computer program.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.soft-sys.stat.systat		The statistical program package SYSTAT.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.sources.games.bugs		Bug reports and fixes for posted game software.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.specification.larch		Larch family of formal specification languages.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.std.internat		Discussion about international standards.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.sys.alliant		Info and discussion about Alliant computers.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.sys.amiga.datacomm		Methods of getting bytes in and out.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.sys.amiga.multimedia		Animations, video, &amp;amp; multimedia.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.sys.amiga.networking		Amiga networking software/hardware.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.sys.amiga.uucp		Amiga UUCP packages.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.sys.apple2.gno		The AppleIIgs GNO multitasking environment.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.sys.be.advocacy		Why BeOS is better/worse than XYZ.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.sys.be.programmer		Topics related to BeOS programming.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.sys.convex		Convex computer systems hardware and software.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.sys.harris		Harris computer systems, especially real-time systems.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.marketplace		PC clone games wanted and for sale.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard.advocacy		Advocacy for a particular soundcard.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.sys.intergraph		Intergraph hardware and software products.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.sys.isis		The ISIS distributed system from Cornell.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.sys.mac.games.adventure		Adventure games for the Macintosh.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3		Version 3 of the MacApp object oriented system.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.sys.mac.oop.powerplant		Metrowerks&amp;#039; PowerPlant (CodeWarrior) Framework.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.sys.mac.oop.tcl		Symantec&amp;#039;s THINK Class Library for object programming.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.sys.mac.programmer.codewarrior		Macintosh programming using CodeWarrior.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.sys.mac.programmer.games		Macintosh game programming.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.sys.net-computer.advocacy		Relative merits of Network Computers.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.sys.next.advocacy		The NeXT religion.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.sys.next.bugs		Discussion and solutions for known NeXT bugs.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.sys.nsc.32k		National Semiconductor 32000 series chips.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.sys.proteon		Proteon gateway products.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.sys.psion.comm		Discussions about Psion communications.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.sys.psion.marketplace		Buy and sell Psion computers and accessories.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.sys.ridge		Ridge 32 computers and ROS.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.sys.sequent		Sequent systems, (Balance and Symmetry).&lt;br /&gt;
comp.sys.sgi.audio		Audio on SGI systems.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.sys.sgi.graphics		Graphics packages and issues on SGI machines.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.sys.tahoe		CCI 6/32, Harris HCX/7, &amp;amp; Sperry 7000 computers.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.text.desktop		Technology &amp;amp; techniques of desktop publishing.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.unix.advocacy		Arguments for and against Unix and Unix versions.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.unix.cde		The Common Desktop Environment.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.unix.large		UNIX on mainframes and in large networks.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.unix.machten		The MachTen operating system and related issues.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.unix.pc-clone.16bit		UNIX on 286 architectures.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit		UNIX on 386 and 486 architectures.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.unix.sys3		System III UNIX discussions.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.unix.sys5.r3		Discussing System V Release 3.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.unix.xenix.sco		XENIX versions from the Santa Cruz Operation.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.windows.garnet		The Garnet user interface development environment.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.windows.interviews		The InterViews object-oriented windowing system.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.windows.open-look		Discussion about the Open Look GUI.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.windows.suit		The SUIT user-interface toolkit.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.windows.ui-builders.teleuse		Using/augmenting the TeleUSE UI Builder.&lt;br /&gt;
comp.windows.x.i386unix		The XFree86 window system and others.&lt;br /&gt;
misc.forsale.computers.discussion		Discussions only about items for sale.&lt;br /&gt;
misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.cards.video		Macintosh video cards.&lt;br /&gt;
misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.portables		Portable Macintosh systems.&lt;br /&gt;
misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.systems		Complete Macintosh systems.&lt;br /&gt;
misc.forsale.computers.monitors		Monitors and displays for sale and wanted.&lt;br /&gt;
misc.forsale.computers.other.systems		Complete other types of systems.&lt;br /&gt;
misc.forsale.computers.pc-specific.audio		PC audio equipment.&lt;br /&gt;
misc.forsale.computers.pc-specific.cards.video		PC video cards.&lt;br /&gt;
misc.forsale.computers.pc-specific.motherboards		PC motherboards.&lt;br /&gt;
misc.forsale.computers.printers		Printers and plotters for sale and wanted.&lt;br /&gt;
misc.industry.pulp-and-paper		Technical topics in the pulp and paper industry.&lt;br /&gt;
misc.jobs.offered.entry		Job listings only for entry-level positions.&lt;br /&gt;
news.admin.nocem		NoCeM protocol policy issues and information.&lt;br /&gt;
rec.arts.comics.elfquest		The Elfquest universe and characters.&lt;br /&gt;
rec.arts.sf.starwars.collecting.customizing		Customizing Star Wars toys.&lt;br /&gt;
rec.arts.sf.tv.quantum-leap		Quantum Leap TV, comics, cons, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
rec.autos.sport.rally		Any type of interest in any form of rally motorsport.&lt;br /&gt;
rec.crafts.dollhouses		Collecting and making of dollhouse miniatures.&lt;br /&gt;
rec.games.bolo		The networked strategy war game Bolo.&lt;br /&gt;
rec.games.computer.quake.editing		Editing and hacking Quake-related files.&lt;br /&gt;
rec.games.computer.quake.playing		Playing Quake and user-created levels.&lt;br /&gt;
rec.games.computer.quake.quake-c		Modifying Quake with Quake-C.&lt;br /&gt;
rec.games.frp.industry		Roleplaying industry &amp;amp; companies.&lt;br /&gt;
rec.games.frp.storyteller		World of Darkness and StoryTeller games.&lt;br /&gt;
rec.games.trading-cards.marketplace.magic.trades		Trading Magic cards.&lt;br /&gt;
rec.games.trading-cards.startrek		Star Trek Trading Card Games.&lt;br /&gt;
rec.games.video.cd-i		CD-i topics with emphasis on games.&lt;br /&gt;
rec.games.video.cd32		Gaming talk, info and help for the Amiga CD32.&lt;br /&gt;
rec.games.xtank.play		Strategy and tactics for the distributed game Xtank.&lt;br /&gt;
rec.games.xtank.programmer		Coding the Xtank game and its robots.&lt;br /&gt;
rec.music.artists.ani-difranco		Ani Difranco, related topics.&lt;br /&gt;
rec.music.artists.danny-elfman		Composer Danny Elfman&amp;#039;s music.&lt;br /&gt;
rec.music.artists.stevie-nicks		Singer/songwriter Stevie Nicks.&lt;br /&gt;
rec.music.artists.wallflowers		Music group The Wallflowers.&lt;br /&gt;
rec.music.iranian		Discussion of Iranian music.&lt;br /&gt;
rec.parks.theme		Entertainment theme parks.&lt;br /&gt;
rec.scouting.guide+girl		Guiding and girl scout organizations.&lt;br /&gt;
rec.sport.basketball.women		Women&amp;#039;s basketball at all levels.&lt;br /&gt;
rec.sport.footbag		Discussion about the sport of footbag.&lt;br /&gt;
rec.sport.orienteering		All matters related to the sport of orienteering.&lt;br /&gt;
rec.sport.skating.roller		Conventional (quad) roller skating.&lt;br /&gt;
rec.video.dvd.advocacy		DVD-Video pro/con arguments.&lt;br /&gt;
sci.aquaria		Only scientifically-oriented postings about aquaria.&lt;br /&gt;
sci.engr.coastal		Coastal and ocean engineering.&lt;br /&gt;
sci.engr.marine.hydrodynamics		Marine Hydrodynamics.&lt;br /&gt;
sci.med.occupational		Repetitive Strain Injuries (RSI) &amp;amp; job injury issues.&lt;br /&gt;
soc.adoption.parenting		Adoptive parenting by adoptive parents.&lt;br /&gt;
soc.college.teaching-asst		Issues affecting collegiate teaching assistants.&lt;br /&gt;
soc.support.depression.seasonal		Seasonal affective disorder.&lt;br /&gt;
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CHANGE HISTORY:&lt;br /&gt;
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2011-02-01      1st RFD&lt;br /&gt;
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