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From: Alexander Bartolich <alexander.bartolich@gmx.at>

Subject: 2nd RFD: rec.humor.jewish moderated (remove)

Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2010 08:27:35 EDT

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              REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)

              moderated group rec.humor.jewish



This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) to remove moderated

newsgroup rec.humor.jewish.



RATIONALE:



On 2010-07-25 the moderators of rec.humor.jewish publicly announced

that they would like to close the group due to ever-decreasing popu-

larity. In the resulting thread no one volunteered to take over.

> >Message-ID: <8101365755684323B2912264851AD9FA@phil>

Phillip Sego asked the B8MB to close the group, and declared that from

2010-09-08 on the moderators will reject all submissions. However, on

2010-09-11 two posts were approved. According to Phillip those were

already in the queue and submitted before the deadline.

> >Message-ID: <Zv2dnfsMR8fitA_RnZ2dnUVZ_gOdnZ2d@earthlink.com>

David E. Ross raised concerns about the speed of removal proceedings.

He suggests to stick with the standard timing for processing RFDs, i.e.

six weeks between MVA and LCC.

> >Message-ID: <aPednSQpMMmMvhXRnZ2dnUVZ_hWdnZ2d@iswest.net>

NEWSGROUPS LINE:



rec.humor.jewish	Humor and the discussion of humor, mostly Jewish. (Moderated)



DISTRIBUTION:



news.announce.newgroups

news.groups.proposals

rec.humor.jewish

rec.humor.d



CHARTER OF REC.HUMOR.JEWISH



The Jewish people have always been able to laugh at their lives and

culture. This proposed newsgroup, rec.humor.jewish, is for anyone who

wants to share and discuss humor, primarily humor as it pertains to

Jews, their culture, Israel, and the Jewish religion. Non-Jewish humor

will also be accepted. The whole idea is to make people laugh!



Unacceptable postings: (Postings *must* follow these guidelines. Posts

which do not will be returned to the sender with a copy of the charter

and FAQ.)



1.) Anti-Semitic - i.e. those which call for genocide and violence

against Jews, and derogatory or false characterizations which would

tend to perpetuate anti-Semitism.



2.) Revisionist - i.e. those which deny the Holocaust



3.) Postings from individuals and/or groups who, in the newsgroup

rec.humor.jewish, have openly advocated harm against the Jewish

people.



4.) Website announcements which are not related to Judaism, except for

website announcements for "not Jewish, just funny" (NJJF) humor,

unless those websites feature anti-Semitic "humor".



5.) Excessively crossposted Articles - articles posted at the same

time to four or more newsgroups



6.) Trolls and off-topic spam - messages which, in the moderators'

judgement, would have the primary effect of disrupting the newsgroup.



7.) Conversionists - Posts which offer or promote conversion to

another religion. This would also include posts which promote so-

called "Messianic Judaism" or "Hebraic Christianity"



8.) Any of the following: Large binaries; posts over 400 lines long,

or more than 75 characters per line of original text, or those with

executable or macro attachments; and other non-standard formats which

are incompatible with robo-moderators and/or most newsreaders. PGP-

type signatures would be permitted.



9.) Postings with explicit sexual content (XXX-rated), or which imply

access to explicit sexual content are unacceptable.



General Behavior (All postings are *encouraged* to follow these

guidelines. Postings which fail to follow these guidelines will be

forwarded a copy of the FAQ and charter, but the message *will* be

still be posted.)



1.) Posters are expected to maintain a basic tone of civility



2.) Posters should not make derogatory remarks about religious

practices or the lack of them



3.) Posters should refrain from making derogatory comments about other

religious, racial, or ethnic groups.



4.) Identifying Tags: Posters of the following categories are

encouraged to use the following tags:



NJJF - Not Jewish Just Funny

MCOL - May contain offensive language

ANNOUNCE - Announcement

If posters fail to use these tags, the moderator(s) reserve the right

to insert them without prior consent. Additional tags may be created

should the need arise.



Rejected Messages and Appeals



The Board of Moderators will try to make sure that actions listed

above will not be applied to users who commit infractions

inadvertently or because they have misunderstood our policies.



A poster whose post has been rejected or whose name has been placed on

the auto-reject list has a right to appeal to the moderators of this

newsgroup. The poster may then e-mail the moderator(s) at the stated

address. The decision of the moderators is final.



Moderation Policy



The moderation policy will combine robo-moderation and a moderation

panel to set standards for civil discourse and provide guidance for

newcomers, but also allow express posting. The group will provide a

supportive atmosphere for newcomers to RHJ and/or Usenet by issuing

monthly postings listing the groups charter and posting guidelines.



The robo-moderator shall search every submission to rec.humor.jewish

for certain trigger words, forwarding any submissions containing these

trigger words to the panel of human moderators for review. The list of

trigger words is maintained by the moderators, who will add words as

needed.



Submissions from people on the express poster list will be scanned for

trigger words, as described above. Any messages including such trigger

words will be referred to a moderator. All other posts from express

posters will be accepted and posted by the robo-moderator without

human review.



Submissions from those not on the express poster list which clearly

fall into one of the categories referenced in the Charter under

"unacceptable postings" will be automatically rejected. A note will be

sent to the author (or apparent author) including the rejected post

and explaining the reason(s) for rejection. All other submissions from

non-express posters will be referred to the moderation queue.



Posters can get on the express posting list two ways. First, they can

choose to register by sending e-mail to the newsgroup address listed

in the trailer attached to all posts, agreeing to follow the posting

guidelines. Second, they can simply post to the group; their posts

will be reviewed by the moderation panel, and after four acceptable

posts they will be placed on the express posting list and sent a

notification of this change in status. First time posters will

automatically receive copies of the FAQ and Charter.



If a moderator accepts the article, it is posted to the newsgroup. If

the moderator feels the article should be rejected, that moderator

writes a comment explaining why and re-queues the article for review

by a second moderator. If the second moderator concurs that the

article should be rejected, that moderator adds another comment and

returns the article to the poster. If the second moderator feels the

post is acceptable, it is posted to the newsgroup. Any moderator who

is unsure about the appropriateness of a post may poll the moderation

board for additional opinions.



The number of active moderators in the moderation panel will initially

be 9. Additional moderators may be recruited from the readership as

demand warrants. If a moderator wants to retire from the moderation

panel, he or she agrees to make a public statement at least one month

prior to retirement so that a replacement moderator may be found. When

vacancies occur, anyone may volunteer to become a moderator or advisor

with the consent of more than half of the current moderation panel.

Moderators or advisors may be removed by a vote of two-thirds of the

moderation panel. Moderators may request to be put on inactive status

due to personal demands. If this inactive status exceeds six months,

the moderator position will be considered vacant, and a replacement

may be sought.



Disclaimer

- The moderators of this newsgroup are not responsible for

  truthfulness or legality of any of the posts.

- The approval of a post by a moderator is NOT an endorsement by the

  moderator or board.

- Posters assume full responsibility for the content of their posts -

  Readers using information that appears in the newsgroup do so at their

  own risk.

- Posters agree that by posting items to this newsgroup they indemnify

  and hold harmless the directors and service providers.

- The copyright for all posts remains with the poster or in the public

  domain as appropriate.



HISTORY OF THE GROUP:



rec.humor.jewish is a moderated newsgroup which passed its vote for creation

by 395:27 as reported in news.announce.newgroups on 21 May 1998.



PROPONENT:



Alexander Bartolich <alexander.bartolich@gmx.at>



PROCEDURE:



Those who wish to comment on this request to remove this newsgroup should

subscribe to news.groups.proposals and participate in the relevant threads

in that newsgroup.



To this end, the followup header of this RFD has been set to

news.groups.proposals.



In the course of the removal process two formal announcements are posted

(1st RFD and LCC), each taking two weeks. At the end of the

process the B8MB will vote on the issue.



Available options for rec.humor.jewish are:

- leave the group as it is

- remove the group



For more information on the removal process, please see 



http://www.big-8.org/wiki/Group_Removal_FAQ



CHANGE HISTORY:



2010-09-06	1st RFD

2010-10-02	2nd RFD

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