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		<title>Sbonine: Created page with &quot;&lt;pre&gt; From: Alexander Bartolich &lt;alexander.bartolich@gmx.at&gt; Subject: 1st RFD: rec.arts.sf.reviews moderated (remove) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 01:43:56 EDT Message-ID: &lt;i4smp8$dtc$...&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt; From: Alexander Bartolich &amp;lt;alexander.bartolich@gmx.at&amp;gt; Subject: 1st RFD: rec.arts.sf.reviews moderated (remove) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 01:43:56 EDT Message-ID: &amp;lt;i4smp8$dtc$...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
From: Alexander Bartolich &amp;lt;alexander.bartolich@gmx.at&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: 1st RFD: rec.arts.sf.reviews moderated (remove)&lt;br /&gt;
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 01:43:56 EDT&lt;br /&gt;
Message-ID: &amp;lt;i4smp8$dtc$1@news.albasani.net&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
              REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)&lt;br /&gt;
              moderated group rec.arts.sf.reviews&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) to remove moderated&lt;br /&gt;
newsgroup rec.arts.sf.reviews.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
RATIONALE:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
According to Google&amp;#039;s archive the last regular post was approved on&lt;br /&gt;
2004-12-07. The last regular crosspost (approved by the moderators of&lt;br /&gt;
rec.arts.movies.reviews) was published 2005-04-26.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A probe message resulted in a bounce.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
sf-reviews@postmodern.com&lt;br /&gt;
  (generated from rec-arts-sf-reviews@moderators.isc.org)&lt;br /&gt;
  SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT TO:&amp;lt;sf-reviews@postmodern.com&amp;gt;:&lt;br /&gt;
  host penguin.postmodern.com [75.101.18.162]: 550 5.1.1&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;sf-reviews@postmodern.com&amp;gt;... User unknown&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Aahz Maruch forwarded the MVI to Alan Wexelblat, the moderator of&lt;br /&gt;
record, and got no response.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;Message-ID: &amp;lt;i3p7pg$m5p$1@panix5.panix.com&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Stephen Graham said he would be willing to serve as moderator, but is&lt;br /&gt;
concerned that the long period without posts will make it difficult&lt;br /&gt;
to get started again.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;Message-ID: &amp;lt;DMWdnT_ULIxbt_3RnZ2dnUVZ_tadnZ2d@speakeasy.net&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
NEWSGROUPS LINE:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
rec.arts.sf.reviews	Reviews of science fiction/fantasy/horror works. (Moderated)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
DISTRIBUTION:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
news.announce.newgroups&lt;br /&gt;
news.groups.proposals&lt;br /&gt;
rec.arts.sf.reviews&lt;br /&gt;
rec.arts.sf.misc&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
CHARTER OF REC.ARTS.SF.REVIEWS&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  rec.arts.sf-reviews will be a moderated newsgroup, under shared&lt;br /&gt;
  moderation, whose purpose is to distribute reviews and critical &lt;br /&gt;
  reviews of works of interest to the science fiction/fantasy/horror &lt;br /&gt;
  community.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;quot;Works&amp;quot; includes but is not limited to:  books, short stories, &lt;br /&gt;
  movies, &amp;quot;graphic novels,&amp;quot; and any other publically-available media.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;quot;Of interest to the sf/f/h community&amp;quot; will be interpreted&lt;br /&gt;
  liberally by the sitting moderator.  The discussion period for&lt;br /&gt;
  the creation of this group has led to the conclusion that nonfiction &lt;br /&gt;
  or other kinds of fiction by and/or about sf/f/h writers would be &lt;br /&gt;
  permitted, as well as non-fiction of a sort related to one of the &lt;br /&gt;
  above (e.g., speculative science books or mythographies).  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  Reviews of individual episodes or issues of continuing TV series, &lt;br /&gt;
  comic books, etc., would most likely _not_ be permitted; however, &lt;br /&gt;
  reviews of such series as a whole, or of large &amp;quot;arcs&amp;quot; of such&lt;br /&gt;
  series, would most likely be permitted.  As noted, however, this &lt;br /&gt;
  would be up to the judgement of the sitting moderator, as influenced&lt;br /&gt;
  by the readership.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  Multiple reviews of the same work(s) will be welcome, as will&lt;br /&gt;
  single reviews of multiple works.  Comments on reviews will be &lt;br /&gt;
  passed to the newsgroup on a _highly_ selective basis:  generally, &lt;br /&gt;
  they must say something new about the work, rather than simply &lt;br /&gt;
  discussing the review.  This is not intended to stifle debate &lt;br /&gt;
  but to keep the content/noise ratio as high as possible.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
HISTORY OF THE GROUP:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
rec.arts.sf-reviews is a moderated newsgroup which passed its vote for&lt;br /&gt;
creation by 342:25 as reported in news.announce.newgroups on 8 May 1991.&lt;br /&gt;
rec.arts.sf.reviews supersedes it as per the 714:86 vote in the&lt;br /&gt;
rec.arts.sf reorganization results announced on 13 October 1991.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
PROPONENT:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Alexander Bartolich &amp;lt;alexander.bartolich@gmx.at&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
PROCEDURE:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Those who wish to comment on this request to remove this newsgroup should&lt;br /&gt;
subscribe to news.groups.proposals and participate in the relevant threads&lt;br /&gt;
in that newsgroup.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To this end, the followup header of this RFD has been set to&lt;br /&gt;
news.groups.proposals.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the course of the removal process four formal announcements are posted&lt;br /&gt;
(MVI, 1st RFD, 2nd RFD, and LCC), each taking two weeks. At the end of the&lt;br /&gt;
process the B8MB will vote on the issue.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Available options for rec.arts.sf.reviews are:&lt;br /&gt;
- leave the group as it is&lt;br /&gt;
- remove the group&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For more information on the removal process, please see &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.big-8.org/wiki/Group_Removal_FAQ&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
CHANGE HISTORY:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2010-05-20	First probe post&lt;br /&gt;
2010-08-09	Moderator Vacancy Investigation&lt;br /&gt;
2010-08-23	1st RFD&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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