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		<title>Moleski: Created page with &#039;&lt;pre&gt; From: Big-8 Management Board &lt;board@big-8.org&gt; Subject: RFD: comp.lang.java.announce moderated (remove) LAST CALL FOR COMMENTS Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 17:51:24 EST Message-ID…&#039;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;#039;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt; From: Big-8 Management Board &amp;lt;board@big-8.org&amp;gt; Subject: RFD: comp.lang.java.announce moderated (remove) LAST CALL FOR COMMENTS Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 17:51:24 EST Message-ID…&amp;#039;&lt;/p&gt;
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From: Big-8 Management Board &amp;lt;board@big-8.org&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: RFD: comp.lang.java.announce moderated (remove) LAST CALL FOR COMMENTS&lt;br /&gt;
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 17:51:24 EST&lt;br /&gt;
Message-ID: &amp;lt;hn0v6s$g8p$1@news.albasani.net&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
              REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)&lt;br /&gt;
              moderated group comp.lang.java.announce&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) to remove moderated&lt;br /&gt;
newsgroup comp.lang.java.announce.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
RATIONALE:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Probe posts to this group resulted in bounces.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;comp-lang-java-announce@moderators.isc.org&amp;gt;: host&lt;br /&gt;
  moderators.individual.net[130.133.4.7] said: 550 Unrouteable address (in&lt;br /&gt;
  reply to RCPT TO command)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
NEWSGROUPS LINE:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
comp.lang.java.announce	Announcements re the Java System. (Moderated)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
DISTRIBUTION:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
news.announce.newgroups&lt;br /&gt;
news.groups.proposals&lt;br /&gt;
comp.lang.java.announce&lt;br /&gt;
comp.lang.misc&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
CHARTER OF COMP.LANG.JAVA.ANNOUNCE&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  This moderated, low-volume group is for Java-related announcements,&lt;br /&gt;
  including:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    o  new releases of software&lt;br /&gt;
       (compilers, development kits, browsers, etc.)&lt;br /&gt;
    o  new publicly accessible applets&lt;br /&gt;
    o  events (user group meetings, conferences, etc.)&lt;br /&gt;
    o  new packages or announcements of official specification changes.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  This is not a discussion group (posts that are likely to generate&lt;br /&gt;
  discussion should have follow-ups set to one of the other Java groups).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  Moderation policy:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  The intent of moderation is to ensure this is a low-noise group, and to&lt;br /&gt;
  prevent excessive advertising by any single company.  Posts announcing&lt;br /&gt;
  commercial products are acceptable, providing they are kept to a&lt;br /&gt;
  reasonable frequency.&lt;br /&gt;
  It is not appropriate to post binary classfiles or long source listings&lt;br /&gt;
  on any of these groups. Instead, the post should reference a WWW or FTP&lt;br /&gt;
  site (short source snippets to demonstrate a particular point or problem&lt;br /&gt;
  are fine).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
HISTORY OF THE GROUP:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
comp.lang.java.announce is a moderated newsgroup which passed its vote for&lt;br /&gt;
creation by 491:38 as reported in news.announce.newgroups on 11 Jun 1996.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
PROPONENT:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Alexander Bartolich &amp;lt;alexander.bartolich@gmx.at&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
PROCEDURE:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Those who wish to comment on this request to remove this newsgroup should&lt;br /&gt;
subscribe to news.groups.proposals and participate in the relevant threads&lt;br /&gt;
in that newsgroup.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To this end, the followup header of this RFD has been set to&lt;br /&gt;
news.groups.proposals.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the course of the removal process four formal announcements are posted&lt;br /&gt;
(MVI, 1st RFD, 2nd RFD, and LCC), each taking two weeks. At the end of the&lt;br /&gt;
process the B8MB will vote on the issue.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Available options for comp.lang.java.announce are:&lt;br /&gt;
- leave the group as it is&lt;br /&gt;
- remove the group&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For more information on the MVI process, please see &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:mvi&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
CHANGE HISTORY:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2010-01-19	Probe post&lt;br /&gt;
2010-01-24	Moderator Vacancy Investigation&lt;br /&gt;
2010-02-06	1st RFD&lt;br /&gt;
2010-02-21	2nd RFD&lt;br /&gt;
2010-03-07	LCC&lt;br /&gt;
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