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		<title>Moleski: Created page with &#039;&lt;pre&gt; From: Alexander Bartolich &lt;alexander.bartolich@gmx.at&gt; Subject: 2nd RFD: comp.soft-sys.middleware.bea-tuxedo moderated (remove) Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 17:58:42 EST Message-I…&#039;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;#039;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt; From: Alexander Bartolich &amp;lt;alexander.bartolich@gmx.at&amp;gt; Subject: 2nd RFD: comp.soft-sys.middleware.bea-tuxedo moderated (remove) Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 17:58:42 EST Message-I…&amp;#039;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
From: Alexander Bartolich &amp;lt;alexander.bartolich@gmx.at&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: 2nd RFD: comp.soft-sys.middleware.bea-tuxedo moderated (remove)&lt;br /&gt;
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 17:58:42 EST&lt;br /&gt;
Message-ID: &amp;lt;hkkpfu$r6f$1@news.albasani.net&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
              REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)&lt;br /&gt;
              moderated group comp.soft-sys.middleware.bea-tuxedo&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) to remove moderated&lt;br /&gt;
newsgroup comp.soft-sys.middleware.bea-tuxedo.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
RATIONALE:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Probe posts to this group resulted in bounces.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its&lt;br /&gt;
  recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  tuxtalk@beasys.com&lt;br /&gt;
  (generated from comp-soft-sys-middleware-bea-tuxedo@moderators.isc.org)&lt;br /&gt;
  retry time not reached for any host after a long failure period&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
NEWSGROUPS LINE:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
comp.soft-sys.middleware.bea-tuxedo	Technical forum on BEA TUXEDO software. (Moderated)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
DISTRIBUTION:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
news.announce.newgroups&lt;br /&gt;
news.groups.proposals&lt;br /&gt;
comp.soft-sys.middleware.bea-tuxedo&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
CHARTER OF COMP.SOFT-SYS.MIDDLEWARE.BEA-TUXEDO&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Articles suitable for posting to comp.soft-sys.middleware.bea-tuxedo are&lt;br /&gt;
those pertaining to topics related to BEA TUXEDO software.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Expected topics of discussion include (but are not limited to):&lt;br /&gt;
  * Technical discussion&lt;br /&gt;
  * Technical support issues&lt;br /&gt;
  * Connectivity and systems integration discussion&lt;br /&gt;
  * BEA TUXEDO announcements and events&lt;br /&gt;
  * Training discussion&lt;br /&gt;
  * Implementation process discussion&lt;br /&gt;
  * BEA TUXEDO customer discussion&lt;br /&gt;
  * FAQ&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Inappropriate posts would include:&lt;br /&gt;
  * Advertising. This newsgroup allows those involved with BEA TUXEDO&lt;br /&gt;
    software to help those individuals who share questions or concerns&lt;br /&gt;
    with the group. This is NOT a forum for advertising and commercial&lt;br /&gt;
    interests and such posts will NOT be welcome. If you have a product&lt;br /&gt;
    or service to sell, please post your message in other, more&lt;br /&gt;
    appropriate locations.&lt;br /&gt;
  * Inappropriate behavior. Inappropriate posts, spamming,&lt;br /&gt;
    advertisement, foul language, or innuendoes that are disrespectful&lt;br /&gt;
    of the other users or groups of people.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
HISTORY OF THE GROUP:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
comp.soft-sys.middleware.bea-tuxedo is a moderated newsgroup which passed its&lt;br /&gt;
vote for creation by 276:20 as reported in news.announce.newgroups on&lt;br /&gt;
21 Aug 1997.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
PROPONENT:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Alexander Bartolich &amp;lt;alexander.bartolich@gmx.at&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
PROCEDURE:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Those who wish to comment on this request to remove this newsgroup should&lt;br /&gt;
subscribe to news.groups.proposals and participate in the relevant threads&lt;br /&gt;
in that newsgroup.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To this end, the followup header of this RFD has been set to&lt;br /&gt;
news.groups.proposals.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the course of the removal process four formal announcements are posted&lt;br /&gt;
(MVI, 1st RFD, 2nd RFD, and LCC), each taking two weeks. At the end of the&lt;br /&gt;
process the B8MB will vote on the issue.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Available options for comp.soft-sys.middleware.bea-tuxedo are:&lt;br /&gt;
- leave the group as it is&lt;br /&gt;
- remove the group&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For more information on the MVI process, please see &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:mvi&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
CHANGE HISTORY:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2009-10-29	First probe post&lt;br /&gt;
2010-01-10	Moderator Vacancy Investigation&lt;br /&gt;
2010-01-24	1st RFD&lt;br /&gt;
2010-02-06	2nd RFD&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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