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		<title>Moleski: Created page with &#039;&lt;pre&gt; From: Alexander Bartolich &lt;alexander.bartolich@gmx.at Subject: 1st RFD: comp.windows.x.announce moderated (remove) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 21:01:50 EST Message-ID: &lt;hjg3uv$n…&#039;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;#039;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt; From: Alexander Bartolich &amp;lt;alexander.bartolich@gmx.at Subject: 1st RFD: comp.windows.x.announce moderated (remove) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 21:01:50 EST Message-ID: &amp;lt;hjg3uv$n…&amp;#039;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
From: Alexander Bartolich &amp;lt;alexander.bartolich@gmx.at&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: 1st RFD: comp.windows.x.announce moderated (remove)&lt;br /&gt;
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 21:01:50 EST&lt;br /&gt;
Message-ID: &amp;lt;hjg3uv$npe$1@news.albasani.net&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
              REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)&lt;br /&gt;
              moderated group comp.windows.x.announce&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) to remove moderated&lt;br /&gt;
newsgroup comp.windows.x.announce.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
RATIONALE:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Probe posts to this group resulted in bounces.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;lt;comp-windows-x-announce@moderators.isc.org&amp;gt;: host&lt;br /&gt;
      moderators.individual.net[130.133.4.7] said: 550-Callout verification&lt;br /&gt;
      failed: 550 550 5.1.1 &amp;lt;kaleb@ics.com&amp;gt;... User unknown&lt;br /&gt;
      (in reply to RCPT TO command)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  kaleb@ics.com&lt;br /&gt;
    (generated from comp-windows-x-announce@moderators.isc.org)&lt;br /&gt;
    SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT TO:&amp;lt;kaleb@ics.com&amp;gt;:&lt;br /&gt;
    host mail-relay.ics.com [66.238.211.190]: 550 5.1.1 &amp;lt;kaleb@ics.com&amp;gt;...&lt;br /&gt;
    User unknown&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
NEWSGROUPS LINE:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
comp.windows.x.announce	X Window System announcements. (Moderated)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
DISTRIBUTION:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
news.announce.newgroups&lt;br /&gt;
news.groups.proposals&lt;br /&gt;
comp.windows.x.announce&lt;br /&gt;
comp.windows.x&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
CHARTER OF COMP.WINDOWS.X.ANNOUNCE&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This group will be moderated by the staff of X Consortium, Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
Traffic will be limited to major X announcements, such as the&lt;br /&gt;
following:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  Public Review of a proposed X Consortium standard&lt;br /&gt;
  Adoption of a new X Consortium standard&lt;br /&gt;
  Upcoming public X conferences, exhibitions, or meetings&lt;br /&gt;
  A new release of a major public system, toolkit, or application&lt;br /&gt;
  A major patch or modification to X software&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The moderator will reject messages on these subjects:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  Advertisements for commercial products&lt;br /&gt;
  Questions about anything&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There is a two-way gateway between comp.windows.x.announce and the&lt;br /&gt;
mailing list xannounce@x.org.  Messages appearing here will also&lt;br /&gt;
appear on the mailing list xpert@x.org (but NOT on the newsgroup&lt;br /&gt;
comp.windows.x).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It is intended that traffic will be low enough that everyone with any&lt;br /&gt;
interest in X will subscribe.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
HISTORY OF THE GROUP:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
comp.windows.x.announce is a moderated newsgroup which passed its vote for&lt;br /&gt;
creation by 602:18 as reported in news.announce.newgroups on 22 Jun 1994.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
PROPONENT:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Alexander Bartolich &amp;lt;alexander.bartolich@gmx.at&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
PROCEDURE:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Those who wish to comment on this request to remove this newsgroup should&lt;br /&gt;
subscribe to news.groups.proposals and participate in the relevant threads&lt;br /&gt;
in that newsgroup.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To this end, the followup header of this RFD has been set to&lt;br /&gt;
news.groups.proposals.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the course of the removal process four formal announcements are posted&lt;br /&gt;
(MVI, 1st RFD, 2nd RFD, and LCC), each taking two weeks. At the end of the&lt;br /&gt;
process the B8MB will vote on the issue.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Available options for comp.windows.x.announce are:&lt;br /&gt;
- leave the group as it is&lt;br /&gt;
- remove the group&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For more information on the MVI process, please see &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:mvi&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
CHANGE HISTORY:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2009-10-29	First probe post&lt;br /&gt;
2010-01-10	Moderator Vacancy Investigation&lt;br /&gt;
2010-01-24	1st RFD&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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