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	From: Big-8 Management Board <board@big-8.org>		From: Big-8 Management Board <board@big-8.org>
	Subject: RFD: comp.unix.bsd.~~netbsd~~.announce moderated (remove) LAST CALL FOR COMMENTS		Subject: RFD: comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.announce moderated (change moderator or remove) LAST CALL FOR COMMENTS
	Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 19:53:58 EST		Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 19:53:04 EST
	Message-ID: <~~hib3mh~~$~~2m2~~$1@news.albasani.net>		Message-ID: <hib3ml$2n1$1@news.albasani.net>


	REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)		REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
	moderated group comp.unix.bsd.~~netbsd~~.announce		moderated group comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.announce

	This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) to ~~remove moderated~~		This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) to change moderators of
	~~newsgroup~~ comp.unix.bsd.~~netbsd~~.announce.		comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.announce, or to remove this group.

	RATIONALE:		RATIONALE:

	~~Chris Demetriou replied~~ to ~~a probe post and took the issue~~ to ~~the board~~		Probe posts to this group resulted in bounces.
	~~of the NetBSD Foundation~~. ~~Matthias Scheler, on behalf~~ of ~~the board~~ of
	~~directors, says that they are no longer using the group and suggests~~		openbsd-announce@courtesan.com
	~~that it is removed~~.		(generated from comp-unix-bsd-openbsd-announce@moderators.isc.org)
			SMTP error from remote mail server after
			RCPT TO:<openbsd-announce@courtesan.com>:
			host courtesan.com [64.85.164.38]: 550 5.1.1
			<openbsd-announce@courtesan.com>... User unknown

			Florian Rehnisch posted in news.groups.proposals that he is willing to
			take over moderation.
			>Message-ID: <2009-12-02$14.31.42@x.vimhelp.de.vu>

			Johan van Selst (johans at stack.nl) sent mail stating that courtesan.com
			is Todd Miller's domain; he can be reached at Todd.Miller at courtesan.com.
			Johan is willing to take over moderation.

			Perceived shortcomings of both offers:
			- No concept for revival of group.
			- No details about technical infrastructure.
			- Moderation team too small.
			- No policy for replacement of inactive members.

	NEWSGROUPS LINE:		NEWSGROUPS LINE:

	comp.unix.bsd.~~netbsd~~.announce ~~Announcements pertaining to NetBSD~~. (Moderated)		comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.announce OpenBSD announcements. (Moderated)

	DISTRIBUTION:		DISTRIBUTION:
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	news.announce.newgroups		news.announce.newgroups
	news.groups.proposals		news.groups.proposals
	comp.unix.bsd.~~netbsd~~.announce		comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.announce

			CHARTER OF COMP.UNIX.BSD.OPENBSD.ANNOUNCE

	~~CHARTER OF COMP~~.~~UNIX~~.~~BSD~~.~~NETBSD~~.~~ANNOUNCE~~		comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.announce is a moderated group for general
			announcements pertaining to the OpenBSD operating system. This
			includes but is not limited to new releases of OpenBSD, impending
			changes that affect OpenBSD users, and new products available for
			OpenBSD.

	~~Moderated by Chris Demetriou <cgd@alpha.bostic.com>.~~		Moderation policies:

	~~This newsgroup is for announcements relating~~ to the ~~NetBSD~~		Articles should be accepted that pertain to the availability of new
	operating system~~. Things appropriate for the .announce group~~		products for the OpenBSD operating system (including new versions
	~~would include announcements of~~ new versions ~~of NetBSD,~~		of OpenBSD itself). Articles regarding commercial products should
	~~announcements~~ of ~~major software releases (both commercial and~~		be accepted if and only if the products in question are usable
	~~freely redistributable~~) ~~for NetBSD (e~~.~~g. new version of X11 for~~		with OpenBSD and not general in nature.
	~~NetBSD), announcements of fixes for major bugs,~~ and the ~~like.~~
	~~FAQs relating to NetBSD should also be cross-posted to this group~~.

	HISTORY OF THE GROUP:		HISTORY OF THE GROUP:

	comp.unix.bsd.~~netbsd~~.announce is a moderated newsgroup which passed its vote		comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.announce is a moderated newsgroup which passed its vote
	for creation by ~~332~~:70 as reported in news.announce.newgroups on 22 Feb ~~1995~~.		for creation by 244:32 as reported in news.announce.newgroups on 22 Feb 1997.

	PROPONENT:		PROPONENT:
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	process the B8MB will vote on the issue.		process the B8MB will vote on the issue.

	Available options for comp.unix.bsd.~~netbsd~~.announce are:		Available options for comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.announce are:
	- leave the group as it is		- leave the group as it is
	- remove the group		- remove the group

	For more information on the ~~MVA~~ process, please see		For more information on the MVI process, please see

	http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:mvi		http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:mvi
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	CHANGE HISTORY:		CHANGE HISTORY:

	2009-10-29 Probe post		2009-10-29 Probe post bounced
	~~2009-11-10 Matthias Scheler declares that the group is unused~~		2009-11-29 Moderator Vacancy Investigation
	2009-11-29 Moderator Vacancy ~~Announcement~~
	2009-12-13 1st RFD		2009-12-13 1st RFD
	2009-12-27 2nd RFD		2009-12-27 2nd RFD
	2010-01-09 LCC		2010-01-09 LCC
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From: Big-8 Management Board <board@big-8.org>
Subject: RFD: comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.announce moderated (remove) LAST CALL FOR COMMENTS
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 19:53:58 EST
Message-ID: <hib3mh$2m2$1@news.albasani.net>

REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
moderated group comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.announce

This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) to remove moderated
newsgroup comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.announce.

RATIONALE:

Chris Demetriou replied to a probe post and took the issue to the board
of the NetBSD Foundation. Matthias Scheler, on behalf of the board of
directors, says that they are no longer using the group and suggests
that it is removed.

NEWSGROUPS LINE:

comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.announce Announcements pertaining to NetBSD. (Moderated)

DISTRIBUTION:

news.announce.newgroups
news.groups.proposals
comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.announce

CHARTER OF COMP.UNIX.BSD.NETBSD.ANNOUNCE

Moderated by Chris Demetriou <cgd@alpha.bostic.com>.

This newsgroup is for announcements relating to the NetBSD
operating system. Things appropriate for the .announce group
would include announcements of new versions of NetBSD,
announcements of major software releases (both commercial and
freely redistributable) for NetBSD (e.g. new version of X11 for
NetBSD), announcements of fixes for major bugs, and the like.
FAQs relating to NetBSD should also be cross-posted to this group.

HISTORY OF THE GROUP:

comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.announce is a moderated newsgroup which passed its vote
for creation by 332:70 as reported in news.announce.newgroups on 22 Feb 1995.

PROPONENT:

Alexander Bartolich <alexander.bartolich@gmx.at>

PROCEDURE:

Those who wish to comment on this request to remove this newsgroup should
subscribe to news.groups.proposals and participate in the relevant threads
in that newsgroup.

To this end, the followup header of this RFD has been set to
news.groups.proposals.

In the course of the removal process four formal announcements are posted
(MVI, 1st RFD, 2nd RFD, and LCC), each taking two weeks. At the end of the
process the B8MB will vote on the issue.

Available options for comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.announce are:
- leave the group as it is
- remove the group

For more information on the MVA process, please see

http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:mvi

CHANGE HISTORY:

2009-10-29 Probe post
2009-11-10 Matthias Scheler declares that the group is unused
2009-11-29 Moderator Vacancy Announcement
2009-12-13 1st RFD
2009-12-27 2nd RFD
2010-01-09 LCC
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