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		<title>Moleski: Created page with &#039;&lt;pre&gt; From: Big-8 Management Board &lt;board@big-8.org&gt; Subject: RFD: comp.lang.visual moderated (remove) LAST CALL FOR COMMENTS Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 18:28:13 EST Message-ID: &lt;hg3…&#039;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;#039;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt; From: Big-8 Management Board &amp;lt;board@big-8.org&amp;gt; Subject: RFD: comp.lang.visual moderated (remove) LAST CALL FOR COMMENTS Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 18:28:13 EST Message-ID: &amp;lt;hg3…&amp;#039;&lt;/p&gt;
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From: Big-8 Management Board &amp;lt;board@big-8.org&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: RFD: comp.lang.visual moderated (remove) LAST CALL FOR COMMENTS&lt;br /&gt;
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 18:28:13 EST&lt;br /&gt;
Message-ID: &amp;lt;hg3qbn$2rc$1@news.albasani.net&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
              REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)&lt;br /&gt;
              moderated group comp.lang.visual&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) to remove moderated&lt;br /&gt;
newsgroup comp.lang.visual.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
NEWSGROUPS LINE:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
comp.lang.visual	General discussion of visual programming languages. (Moderated)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
DISTRIBUTION:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
news.announce.newgroups&lt;br /&gt;
news.groups.proposals&lt;br /&gt;
comp.lang.visual&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
PROPONENT:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Alexander Bartolich &amp;lt;alexander.bartolich@gmx.at&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
CHARTER OF COMP.LANG.VISUAL&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    A forum for general discussion of visual programming languages.  A&lt;br /&gt;
working definition of visual programming languages is posted in the&lt;br /&gt;
regular comp.lang.visual FAQ.  Non-visual aspects of the Visual Basic and&lt;br /&gt;
Visual C++ environments, products of Microsoft, Inc., are not legal&lt;br /&gt;
discussion topics for comp.lang.visual.&lt;br /&gt;
    This is a moderation of the existing group comp.lang.visual.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
RATIONALE:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Probe posts to this group resulted in bounces.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;comp-lang-visual@moderators.isc.org&amp;gt;: host&lt;br /&gt;
    moderators.individual.net[130.133.4.7] said: 550 all relevant MX records&lt;br /&gt;
    point to non-existent hosts (in reply to RCPT TO command)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
HISTORY OF THE GROUP:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
comp.lang.visual is a moderated newsgroup which passed its vote for&lt;br /&gt;
creation by 359:24 as reported in news.announce.newgroups on 14 Dec 1994.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
PROCEDURE:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Those who wish to comment on this request to remove this newsgroup should&lt;br /&gt;
subscribe to news.groups.proposals and participate in the relevant threads&lt;br /&gt;
in that newsgroup.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To this end, the followup header of this RFD has been set to&lt;br /&gt;
news.groups.proposals.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the course of the removal process four formal announcements are posted&lt;br /&gt;
(MVI, 1st RFD, 2nd RFD, and LCC), each taking two weeks. At the end of the&lt;br /&gt;
process the B8MB will vote on the issue.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Available options for comp.lang.visual are:&lt;br /&gt;
- leave the group as it is&lt;br /&gt;
- remove the group&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For more information on the MVI process, please see &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:mvi&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
CHANGE HISTORY:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2009-10-29	Probe post bounced&lt;br /&gt;
2009-11-01	Moderator Vacancy Investigation&lt;br /&gt;
2009-11-15	1st RFD&lt;br /&gt;
2009-11-29	2nd RFD&lt;br /&gt;
2009-12-13	LCC&lt;br /&gt;
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