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From: Alexander Bartolich <alexander.bartolich@gmx.at>

Subject: 1. RFD: comp.arch.hobbyist moderated (remove)

Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:44:05 EST

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              REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)

              moderated group comp.arch.hobbyist



This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) to remove moderated

newsgroup comp.arch.hobbyist.



NEWSGROUPS LINE:



comp.arch.hobbyist	Homebrew digital electronics design. (Moderated)



DISTRIBUTION:



news.announce.newgroups

news.groups.proposals

comp.arch.hobbyist



PROPONENT:



Alexander Bartolich <alexander.bartolich@gmx.at>



CHARTER OF COMP.ARCH.HOBBYIST



A moderated forum to exchange ideas, techniques, problems, solutions,

and other information concerning the hobby of electronics design and

construction, specifically related to digital machines and their

peripherals.



Commercial advertisements (except when non-repetitive and directly

relevant to the topic of the group) are expressly forbidden; it is up

to the moderation group to make individual exceptions.



Binary postings in this group are unwelcome.  No postings containing

10K or more of binary content will be accepted.  Postings containing

less than 10K of binary content should only be used where no other

reasonable method is available to convey the information they contain.

All postings containing binary content of more than 10 lines or 300

bytes, whichever is the smaller, shall be forwarded to the daily

moderators for inspection in the same manner as articles from unknown

authors.



Posters wishing to post binaries that do not fit the above criteria

should upload this data to an FTP or WWW site and instead post a

pointer to that site.  The binary regulations do not apply to the

posting of ASCII schematics.



A 'bot moderator will be used, which will reject articles by authors

who have not read the posting guidelines. Articles rejected by the

'bot will be forwarded to a group of three daily moderators for

review. These daily moderators will be appointed by a moderation group

of at least eight and at most twelve members who will decide on

moderation policy in general and the workings of the 'bot in

particular. Moderation will follow the scheme outlined below:



The 'bot:



- auto-approves articles that match all of these:

  - known author

    OR keyword/phrase in article

    OR reply to approved article to the same set of newsgroups

  - article with less than 300 bytes or 10 lines of binary

    content, whichever is the smaller

  - plain text, without markup encoding

- mails notification of non-approval to original authors,

  without an attempt to circumvent spamblocks

  - notification message explains moderation system,

    and points poster to relevant posting guidelines

- sends non-approved articles to the daily moderators

- uploads non-approved articles to a WWW site, and

  regularly posts a pointer to them

- scans for forged approvals and cancels





The daily moderators:

- individually check articles the 'bot rejected;

  - if at least one of the daily moderators think the

    article is on-topic, it gets posted

  - if it is reposted, the original author is notified



The moderation group:

- appoints the daily moderators

- deals with group abuse that's not caught by the 'bot

  - it has the power to bar persistent abusers by

    unanimous decision for a period of up to

    30 days at a time

- deals with long-term moderation policy

- is obliged to post details of all moderation group

  decisions to the newsgroup

- if a moderation group member does not express an opinion

  on a matter, then their silence shall not be taken as

  supporting either side of a decision



Moderators of news.announce.newgroups and successor groups are

allowed blanket crossposting at their discretion.



RATIONALE:



Probe posts to this group resulted in bounces.



<comp-arch-hobbyist@moderators.isc.org>: host

    moderators.switch.ch[130.59.10.10] said: 550 Unrouteable address

    (in reply to RCPT TO command)



Theo Markettos is willing to take over moderation of there is demand.

>Message-ID: <Niv*0p+Us@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>



HISTORY OF THE GROUP:



comp.arch.hobbyist is a moderated newsgroup which passed its vote for creation

by 199:15 as reported in news.announce.newgroups on 30 Jun 1998.



PROCEDURE:



Those who wish to comment on this request to remove this newsgroup should

subscribe to news.groups.proposals and participate in the relevant threads

in that newsgroup.



To this end, the followup header of this RFD has been set to

news.groups.proposals.



In the course of the removal process four formal announcements are posted

(MVI, 1. RFD, 2. RFD, and LCC), each taking two weeks. At the end of the

process the B8MB will vote on the issue.



Available options for comp.arch.hobbyist are:

- leave the group as it is

- remove the group



For more information on the MVI process, please see 



http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:mvi



CHANGE HISTORY:



2009-10-29	Probe post bounced

2009-11-01	Moderator Vacancy Investigation

2009-11-15	1. RFD

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