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		<title>Moleski: Created page with &#039;&lt;pre&gt; From: The Big-8 Management Board &lt;board@big-8.org&gt; Subject: 2nd RFD: remove rec.games.online.mmorpg.world-of-warcraft (LAST CALL FOR COMMENTS) Newsgroups: rec.games.compute…&#039;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;#039;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt; From: The Big-8 Management Board &amp;lt;board@big-8.org&amp;gt; Subject: 2nd RFD: remove rec.games.online.mmorpg.world-of-warcraft (LAST CALL FOR COMMENTS) Newsgroups: rec.games.compute…&amp;#039;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
From: The Big-8 Management Board &amp;lt;board@big-8.org&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: 2nd RFD: remove rec.games.online.mmorpg.world-of-warcraft (LAST CALL FOR COMMENTS)&lt;br /&gt;
Newsgroups: rec.games.computer.everquest, alt.games.warcraft,&lt;br /&gt;
 news.announce.newgroups, rec.games.online.mmorpg.world-of-warcraft,&lt;br /&gt;
 comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg, news.groups.proposals&lt;br /&gt;
Followup-To: news.groups.proposals&lt;br /&gt;
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 10:25:16 -0500&lt;br /&gt;
Organization: http://www.big-8.org/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
                      REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)&lt;br /&gt;
            remove rec.games.online.mmorpg.world-of-warcraft&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) to remove the unmoderated&lt;br /&gt;
newsgroup rec.games.online.mmorpg.world-of-warcraft.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
PROCEDURE:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The B8MB plans to begin voting on this proposal after five days.  Please&lt;br /&gt;
offer any final discussion or comments before the end of this waiting&lt;br /&gt;
period.  Voting may take up to one week (7 days); a result will be posted&lt;br /&gt;
following the end of the voting period.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.proposals.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The full group removal procedure is documented here:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:rmgroup&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
SUMMARY OF DISCUSSION:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Most respondents were in favor of the proposal to remove this group.&lt;br /&gt;
Jim Riley opposes the proposal because (1) alt groups should be&lt;br /&gt;
considered irrelevant until the B8MB maintains a canonical list of&lt;br /&gt;
them, and (2) the group provides an example for other online/MMORPG&lt;br /&gt;
games. Doug Freyburger contends that removing RGOMWOW will compound&lt;br /&gt;
the error of creating it because it has on-topic traffic. All&lt;br /&gt;
alt.games.warcraft users who responded were in favor in removing&lt;br /&gt;
RGOMWOW.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
While the creation of Big 8 groups isn&amp;#039;t automatically precluded in&lt;br /&gt;
cases where there&amp;#039;s a group for the same topic in another hierarchy&lt;br /&gt;
such as alt, if the users of the existing group oppose the creation of&lt;br /&gt;
the Big 8 group, their opinion should not be overruled lightly. As for&lt;br /&gt;
the example that RGOMWOW sets for other potential online/MMORPG&lt;br /&gt;
groups, I don&amp;#039;t think that&amp;#039;s a strong enough reason to retain the&lt;br /&gt;
group. Finally, regarding the issue of removing an active group,&lt;br /&gt;
there&amp;#039;s very little evidence that RGOMWOW is active, independent of&lt;br /&gt;
alt.games.warcraft, so removing it as soon as possible will minimize&lt;br /&gt;
the damage caused by its creation and removal.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
RATIONALE: remove rec.games.online.mmorpg.world-of-warcraft&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This newsgroup was created as part of a trial &amp;quot;bulk creation&amp;quot; newsgroup&lt;br /&gt;
creation process, in which &amp;quot;obvious&amp;quot; newsgroups were created without&lt;br /&gt;
specific proponents or charters. Subsequent to the group&amp;#039;s creation, it&lt;br /&gt;
was discovered that an active group, alt.games.warcraft, already exists&lt;br /&gt;
for this topic. In order to prevent fragmention of the Usenet WOW&lt;br /&gt;
community, I propose that the newly-created&lt;br /&gt;
rec.games.online.mmorpg.world-of-warcraft be removed before it&amp;#039;s widely&lt;br /&gt;
propagated and established.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
HISTORY: &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The newgroup was issued on Monday, October 8, 2007.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
DISTRIBUTION:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This document has been posted to the following newsgroups:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  news.announce.newgroups (moderated)&lt;br /&gt;
  news.groups.proposals (moderated)&lt;br /&gt;
  rec.games.online.mmorpg.world-of-warcraft&lt;br /&gt;
  alt.games.warcraft&lt;br /&gt;
  rec.games.computer.everquest&lt;br /&gt;
  comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
CHARTER:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The newsgroup line is:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  rec.games.online.mmorpg.world-of-warcraft     World of Warcraft&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This group has no official charter.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
PROPONENT: &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Dave Sill &amp;lt;de5@big-8.org&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
CHANGE HISTORY: &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2007-10-31     1st RFD&lt;br /&gt;
2007-11-02     2nd RFD/LCC&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Moleski</name></author>
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