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<p>Created page with &#039;&lt;pre&gt; From: Jon Bell &lt;jtbell@presby.edu&gt; Subject: RFD: remove news.announce.newusers moderated Newsgroups: news.announce.newusers, news.announce.newgroups, news.newusers.questio…&#039;</p> <p><b>New page</b></p><div>&lt;pre&gt;<br /> From: Jon Bell &lt;jtbell@presby.edu&gt;<br /> Subject: RFD: remove news.announce.newusers moderated<br /> Newsgroups: news.announce.newusers, news.announce.newgroups,<br /> news.newusers.questions, news.groups.proposals<br /> Followup-To: news.groups.proposals<br /> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 10:00:01 -0500<br /> Organization: http://www.big-8.org/<br /> <br /> REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)<br /> remove news.announce.newusers<br /> <br /> This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) to remove the moderated<br /> newsgroup news.announce.newusers.<br /> <br /> <br /> RATIONALE: remove news.announce.newusers<br /> <br /> The last approved postings in news.announce.newusers (NAN) were in May<br /> 2006, due to a server crash or operating-system upgrade which stopped the<br /> software that had been posting them automatically. As the maintainer of<br /> that software, I accept responsibility and apologize for this lapse in<br /> service. I plan to resuscitate those postings, get them approved for<br /> news.answers, and arrange for them to be posted via the news.answers FAQ<br /> server, on behalf of the news.newusers.questions (NNQ) Moderation Board.<br /> <br /> Before I do this, we (the NNQ Moderation Board) think a decision should be<br /> made as to whether NAN needs to exist any longer as a separate group from<br /> NNQ. On the one hand, NNQ receives very little traffic nowadays, so that<br /> introductory Usenet FAQs will be as easily visible there as in NAN. On<br /> the other hand, Usenet documentation and custom has traditionally advised<br /> newcomers to look in NAN for basic introductory information, and that<br /> advice would no longer be valid.<br /> <br /> If it is decided that NAN is to be removed, we will post the former NAN<br /> FAQs and similar new postings to NNQ and news.answers instead.<br /> <br /> If it is decided that NAN should continue to exist, the NNQ Moderation<br /> Board is willing to moderate it on a similar basis to news.answers. That<br /> is, after gaining pre-approval from the NNQ Moderation Board and from the<br /> news.answers moderators, posters would be responsible for posting the<br /> articles themselves, via the news.answers FAQ server or some other means.<br /> All postings would be crossposted to NNQ, NAN and news.answers.<br /> <br /> If someone else volunteers to moderate NAN according to a different scheme<br /> that is acceptable to the Big-8 Management Board, the NNQ Moderation Board<br /> will turn over NAN to them.<br /> <br /> <br /> HISTORY:<br /> <br /> The newsgroup news.announce.newusers was created in the mid 1980s, as<br /> part of the &quot;Great Renaming.&quot; Its purpose is to carry<br /> periodically-reposted informational articles for newcomers to newsgroups.<br /> In 2001, the previous moderator, Mark Moraes, passed control of the group<br /> to the NNQ Moderation Board.<br /> <br /> <br /> CHARTER:<br /> <br /> The newsgroup line is:<br /> <br /> news.announce.newusers Explanatory postings for new users. (Moderated)<br /> <br /> I cannot find an official charter for this group.<br /> <br /> <br /> PROCEDURE: <br /> <br /> The full group removal procedure is documented here:<br /> <br /> http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:rmgroup<br /> <br /> Those who wish to comment on this request to remove this newsgroup should<br /> subscribe to news.groups.proposals and participate in the relevant threads <br /> in that newsgroup.<br /> <br /> To this end, the followup header of this RFD has been set to <br /> news.groups.proposals.<br /> <br /> All discussion of active proposals should be posted to news.groups.proposals.<br /> <br /> If desired by the readership of closely affected groups, the discussion<br /> may be crossposted to those groups, but care must be taken to ensure that<br /> all discussion appears in news.groups.proposals as well.<br /> <br /> <br /> DISTRIBUTION:<br /> <br /> This document has been posted to the following newsgroups:<br /> <br /> news.announce.newgroups (moderated)<br /> news.groups.proposals (moderated)<br /> news.announce.newusers (moderated)<br /> news.newusers.questions (moderated)<br /> <br /> <br /> PROPONENT: <br /> <br /> Jon Bell &lt;jtbell@presby.edu&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> CHANGE HISTORY: <br /> <br /> 2007-09-26 1st RFD<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;</div>

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