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		<title>Moleski: Created page with &#039;&lt;pre&gt; From: Jim Riley &lt;jimrtex@pipeline.com&gt; Subject: RFD: remove *.anti-fascism.* Newsgroups: misc.activism.anti-fascism.tactics,  misc.activism.anti-fascism.announce, news.anno…&#039;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;#039;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt; From: Jim Riley &amp;lt;jimrtex@pipeline.com&amp;gt; Subject: RFD: remove *.anti-fascism.* Newsgroups: misc.activism.anti-fascism.tactics,  misc.activism.anti-fascism.announce, news.anno…&amp;#039;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
From: Jim Riley &amp;lt;jimrtex@pipeline.com&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: RFD: remove *.anti-fascism.*&lt;br /&gt;
Newsgroups: misc.activism.anti-fascism.tactics,&lt;br /&gt;
 misc.activism.anti-fascism.announce, news.announce.newgroups,&lt;br /&gt;
 soc.politics.anti-fascism, news.groups.proposals&lt;br /&gt;
Followup-To: news.groups.proposals&lt;br /&gt;
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 10:41:37 -0500&lt;br /&gt;
Organization: http://www.big-8.org/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
                      REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)&lt;br /&gt;
               remove misc.activism.anti-fascism.announce&lt;br /&gt;
               remove misc.activism.anti-fascism.tactics&lt;br /&gt;
                    remove soc.politics.anti-fascism&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) to remove *.anti-fascism.*.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
RATIONALE: remove *.anti-fascism.*&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Note: Though three groups are included in this RFD, there is no reason&lt;br /&gt;
that all three need share the same disposition.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Throughout this RFD, the three groups will be referred to by the&lt;br /&gt;
following shortened names:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
misc.activism.anti-fascism.announce as MAAF.announce&lt;br /&gt;
misc.activism.anti-fascism.tactics as MAAF.tactics&lt;br /&gt;
soc.politics.anti-fascism as soc.politics.AF&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The last approvals were in late 2000: MAAF.announce, December 2000;&lt;br /&gt;
MAAF.tactics, October 2000; and soc.politics.AF, October 2000.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There were relatively few approvals during the period of active&lt;br /&gt;
moderation, MAAF.announce, 39 approvals; MAAF.tactics, 10; and&lt;br /&gt;
soc.politics.AF, 15.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are three possible dispositions of the groups:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(1) Removal;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(2) Assignment of new moderator(s).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(3) Conversion to unmoderated status.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Because of the subject matter of the group, unmoderated status is&lt;br /&gt;
unlikely to be successful.  In addition, it is not suitable for the&lt;br /&gt;
announcement group MAAF.announce.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If the groups are assigned new moderators, there is no reason that the&lt;br /&gt;
moderators be the same.  Each group has its own focus.  Again, because&lt;br /&gt;
of the subject matter, robomoderation is unlikely to be suitable.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
HISTORY:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The three *.anti-facism.* groups were created in March 1998 after a&lt;br /&gt;
RFD discussion period that lasted 19 months.  However, after the&lt;br /&gt;
newgroup control messages were sent, it was slightly more than a year&lt;br /&gt;
before the first approvals were made by the moderator.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Approvals were sporadic, with months lapsing between approvals. Google&lt;br /&gt;
has a total of 63 articles, with almost 2/3rds (40) in the first 5&lt;br /&gt;
months of approvals (March 1999 to July 1999), and 1/4th (16) in the&lt;br /&gt;
last year (2000).  The last approvals in MAAF.tactics and&lt;br /&gt;
soc.politics.AF were in October 2000; the last approval in&lt;br /&gt;
MAAF.announce was in December 2000.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
CHARTER: misc.activism.anti-fascism.announce&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The newsgroup line is:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|misc.activism.anti-fascism.announce	Announcing anti-fascist activities.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The charter (from the CFV):&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Misc.activism.anti-fascism.announce moderated is intended as a focus&lt;br /&gt;
for announcements of real-time anti-fascist activities.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
CHARTER: misc.activism.anti-fascism.tactics&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The newsgroup line is:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|misc.activism.anti-fascism.tactics	Planning anti-fascist activities.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The charter (from the CFV):&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Misc.activism.anti-fascism.tactics moderated is intended as the&lt;br /&gt;
anti-fascist time/space antipode of soc.politics.anti-fascism.  It is&lt;br /&gt;
for discussions and debates of real-time anti-fascist activities (NB:&lt;br /&gt;
the triple plural)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
CHARTER: soc.politics.anti-fascism&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The newsgroup line is:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|soc.politics.anti-fascism	The politics of fighting fascism.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The charter (from the CFV):&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Soc.politics.anti-fascism is intended as a moderated forum for the&lt;br /&gt;
debate and discussion of anti-fascism and artistic/aesthetic,&lt;br /&gt;
economic, ethical, historical, legal, philosophical, political,&lt;br /&gt;
psychological, and sociological topics related to it. These&lt;br /&gt;
discussions should logically include errors that different&lt;br /&gt;
anti-fascist tendencies made in defining &amp;quot;fascism&amp;quot; itself.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It is not a &amp;quot;dial-a-demo&amp;quot; group nor a focus for discussions&lt;br /&gt;
specifically designed to develop anti-fascist activism.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
PROCEDURE: &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The full group removal procedure is documented here:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:rmgroup&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Those who wish to comment on this request to remove this newsgroup should&lt;br /&gt;
subscribe to news.groups.proposals and participate in the relevant threads &lt;br /&gt;
in that newsgroup.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To this end, the followup header of this RFD has been set to &lt;br /&gt;
news.groups.proposals.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
All discussion of active proposals should be posted to news.groups.proposals.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If desired by the readership of closely affected groups, the discussion&lt;br /&gt;
may be crossposted to those groups, but care must be taken to ensure that&lt;br /&gt;
all discussion appears in news.groups.proposals as well.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
DISTRIBUTION:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This document has been posted to the following newsgroups:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  news.announce.newgroups (moderated)&lt;br /&gt;
  news.groups.proposals (moderated)&lt;br /&gt;
  misc.activism.anti-fascism.announce (moderated)&lt;br /&gt;
  misc.activism.anti-fascism.tactics (moderated)&lt;br /&gt;
  soc.politics.anti-fascism (moderated)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The proponent will also post pointers to:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  misc.activism.progressive (moderated)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
PROPONENT: &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Jim Riley &amp;lt;jimrtex@pipeline.com&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
CHANGE HISTORY: &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2007-07-10     1st RFD&lt;br /&gt;
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