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		<title>Moleski: Created page with &#039;&lt;pre&gt; From: The Big-8 Management Board &lt;board@big-8.org&gt; Subject: RESULT: soc.culture.pakistan.history will be removed Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan, soc.culture.pakistan.hist…&#039;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;#039;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt; From: The Big-8 Management Board &amp;lt;board@big-8.org&amp;gt; Subject: RESULT: soc.culture.pakistan.history will be removed Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan, soc.culture.pakistan.hist…&amp;#039;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
From: The Big-8 Management Board &amp;lt;board@big-8.org&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: RESULT: soc.culture.pakistan.history will be removed&lt;br /&gt;
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan, soc.culture.pakistan.history,&lt;br /&gt;
 news.announce.newgroups, news.groups.proposals&lt;br /&gt;
Followup-To: news.groups.proposals&lt;br /&gt;
Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 23:09:14 -0500&lt;br /&gt;
Organization: http://www.big-8.org/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
                                 RESULT&lt;br /&gt;
              soc.culture.pakistan.history will be removed&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Last Call for Comments (LCC) on 01 May 2007 initiated a five-day&lt;br /&gt;
period for final comments.  Following the comment period, the Big-8&lt;br /&gt;
Management Board has decided by consensus to remove the newsgroup&lt;br /&gt;
soc.culture.pakistan.history.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This group will be removed on 11 May 2007.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
RATIONALE: remove soc.culture.pakistan.history&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Note: There are separate RFD&amp;#039;s proposing the removal of&lt;br /&gt;
soc.culture.pakistan.moderated, soc.culture.pakistan.education, and&lt;br /&gt;
soc.culture.pakistan.history.  It is not necessary that all 3 groups&lt;br /&gt;
share the same fate.  It is conceivable that one group be removed, one&lt;br /&gt;
converted to an unmoderated status, and one assigned a new moderator.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The last approved article submitted to soc.culture.pakistan.history&lt;br /&gt;
occured in July 1997.  Over the next two years, there were about a&lt;br /&gt;
dozen approved articles cross-posted across the entire&lt;br /&gt;
soc.culture.pakistan hierarchy that were not specific to&lt;br /&gt;
soc.culture.pakistan.history. There also were continued posting of&lt;br /&gt;
FAQ&amp;#039;s and similar materials.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If soc.culture.pakistan.history were removed, discussion of the&lt;br /&gt;
history of Pakistan could occur in the unmoderated&lt;br /&gt;
soc.culture.pakistan (SCP), and where topical, in the unmoderated&lt;br /&gt;
SCP.politics, SCP.religion, and SCP.sports.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Alternatives include:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(1) Removal of soc.culture.pakistan.history.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(2) Assignment of a new moderator.  It may be feasible to simply block&lt;br /&gt;
cross-posts and do spam filtering.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(3) Convert the group to an unmoderated status.  Because of its&lt;br /&gt;
sometimes volatile relations with neighboring states such as India and&lt;br /&gt;
Bangladesh (former East Pakistan), an unmoderated group may simply be&lt;br /&gt;
another group to include in a cross-posted thread that is disruptive&lt;br /&gt;
to the other groups.  It should also be noted that the group was&lt;br /&gt;
chartered to be an academic forum.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If the group is converted to an unmoderated status, an effort will&lt;br /&gt;
need to be made to get servers throughout the world to recognize the&lt;br /&gt;
change.  To this end, facilitators should be appointed, who can inform&lt;br /&gt;
users of the switch, encourage ISP&amp;#039;s and NSP&amp;#039;s to switch.  Errant&lt;br /&gt;
submissions should be directed to the facilitators so that they can&lt;br /&gt;
see that they are posted to the newsgroup.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
HISTORY: &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The newsgroup soc.culture.pakistan.history was created in June 1996 as&lt;br /&gt;
part of a re-organization of the soc.culture.pakistan (SCP) hierarchy&lt;br /&gt;
that included creation of the moderated groups SCP.moderated,&lt;br /&gt;
SCP.education, and SCP.history; and the unmoderated groups&lt;br /&gt;
SCP.politics, SCP.religion, and SCP.sports.  The re-organization&lt;br /&gt;
required about 9 months, including a re-vote due to irregularites&lt;br /&gt;
during the first CFV.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The newsgroup soc.culture.pakistan was created in March 1990.  There&lt;br /&gt;
was a proposal to convert the group to a moderated status in February&lt;br /&gt;
1991, but it never proceeded to a vote.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
During the one year active period of soc.culture.pakistan.history from&lt;br /&gt;
June 1996 to July 1997, there were roughly 50 threads per month.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The last approvals specific to soc.culture.pakistan.history were in&lt;br /&gt;
July 1997.  There were about a dozen approvals widely cross-posted&lt;br /&gt;
across the soc.culture.pakistan hierarchy the following year.  In&lt;br /&gt;
addition, there were continued posting of FAQ&amp;#039;s and other guidelines&lt;br /&gt;
that continued through 2006.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
DISTRIBUTION:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This document has been posted to the following newsgroups:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  news.announce.newgroups&lt;br /&gt;
  news.groups.proposals&lt;br /&gt;
  soc.culture.pakistan.history&lt;br /&gt;
  soc.culture.pakistan&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The proponent will also post pointers to:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  soc.culture.pakistan.politics&lt;br /&gt;
  soc.culture.pakistan.religion&lt;br /&gt;
  soc.culture.pakistan.sports&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
PROPONENT: &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Jim Riley &amp;lt;jimrtex@pipeline.com&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
CHANGE HISTORY: &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2007-04-14     1st RFD&lt;br /&gt;
2007-05-01     2nd RFD/LCC&lt;br /&gt;
2007-05-08     Results (passes)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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