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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;#039;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt; From: The Big-8 Management Board &amp;lt;board@big-8.org&amp;gt; Subject: RFD: remove comp.windows.news moderated (LAST CALL FOR COMMENTS) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups, news.group…&amp;#039;&lt;/p&gt;
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From: The Big-8 Management Board &amp;lt;board@big-8.org&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: RFD: remove comp.windows.news moderated (LAST CALL FOR COMMENTS)&lt;br /&gt;
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups, news.groups.proposals,&lt;br /&gt;
 comp.windows.news, comp.windows.misc&lt;br /&gt;
Followup-To: news.groups.proposals&lt;br /&gt;
Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 16:11:36 -0500&lt;br /&gt;
Organization: http://www.big-8.org/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
                      REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)&lt;br /&gt;
                        remove comp.windows.news&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) to remove the moderated&lt;br /&gt;
newsgroup comp.windows.news.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
PROCEDURE:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The B8MB plans to begin voting on this proposal after five days.  Please&lt;br /&gt;
offer any final discussion or comments before the end of this waiting&lt;br /&gt;
period.  Voting may take up to one week (7 days); a result will be posted&lt;br /&gt;
following the end of the voting period.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.proposals.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The full group removal procedure is documented here:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:rmgroup&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
SUMMARY OF DISCUSSION:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One comment was received from Andrew Borchert stating, &amp;quot;I am not aware&lt;br /&gt;
of any new developments that attempt to create a new NeWS&lt;br /&gt;
implementation. The original product is no longer available and it was&lt;br /&gt;
also never released into the public. As it appears today, NeWS is only&lt;br /&gt;
interesting from a historic perspective and it is not likely that this&lt;br /&gt;
will change.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
RATIONALE: remove comp.windows.news&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The last approved article was in March 2000.  Sun Microsystems&lt;br /&gt;
announced the end of life for the Network extensible Window System&lt;br /&gt;
(NeWS) in the early 1990&amp;#039;s.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
During the early 1990&amp;#039;s, traffic in the then unmoderated&lt;br /&gt;
comp.windows.news was fairly light, less than 10 articles per week. In&lt;br /&gt;
December 1995, the group was moderated in place in order to exclude&lt;br /&gt;
misplaced articles related to &amp;quot;news&amp;quot; about MS-Windows.  After the&lt;br /&gt;
moderation, fewer than 20 articles were approved to the newsgroup.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Because of its name, conversion to an unmoderated status is not&lt;br /&gt;
practical.  An unmoderated newsgrooup would be overrun by MS-Windows&lt;br /&gt;
traffic (see comp.windows.misc).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
HISTORY: &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The unmoderated newsgroup comp.windows.news was created in April 1987,&lt;br /&gt;
soon after the Great Renaming.  comp.windows.misc and comp.windows.x&lt;br /&gt;
are of similar vintage.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The newsgroup comp.windows.ms was created in November 1988 for&lt;br /&gt;
discussion of early versions of MS-Windows.  Because of continued off&lt;br /&gt;
topic posting to the other newsgroups in the comp.windows.* hierarchy,&lt;br /&gt;
comp.windows.ms was re-organized into comp.os.ms-windows.* in 1992.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Despite creation of an entire hierarchy dedicated to MS-Windows,&lt;br /&gt;
off-topic posting continued in the comp.windows.* hierarchy.  The&lt;br /&gt;
newsgroup comp.windows.news had the additional burden of a name that&lt;br /&gt;
suggested it was for &amp;quot;news&amp;quot; about (MS)-Windows, rather than being&lt;br /&gt;
about the NeWS.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In December 1995, comp.windows.news was converted to a moderated group&lt;br /&gt;
in order to exclude off-topic discussion, as well as &amp;quot;debate&amp;quot; about&lt;br /&gt;
the group name.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Over the next 5 years less than 20 articles were approved.  The last&lt;br /&gt;
approval was in March 2000.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
DISTRIBUTION:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This document has been posted to the following newsgroups:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  news.announce.newgroups&lt;br /&gt;
  news.groups.proposals&lt;br /&gt;
  comp.windows.news&lt;br /&gt;
  comp.windows.misc&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
CHARTER:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The newsgroup line is:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
comp.windows.news	The Network extensible Windowing System.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The charter (extracted from the CFV for moderating the group):&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
comp.windows.news is dedicated to the discussion of the Network&lt;br /&gt;
extensible Windowing System developed and marketed by Sun Microsystems&lt;br /&gt;
during the late 80&amp;#039;s and early 90&amp;#039;s. Topics include the NeWS server,&lt;br /&gt;
NeWS-specific issues relating to the X/NeWS server, the NeWS dialect&lt;br /&gt;
of PostScript, and any efforts to produce NeWS-compatible systems.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
PROPONENT: &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Jim Riley &amp;lt;jimrtex@pipeline.com&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
CHANGE HISTORY: &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2007-04-19     1st RFD&lt;br /&gt;
2007-05-03     2nd RFD/LCC&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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