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		<title>Moleski: Created page with &#039;&lt;pre&gt; From: Jim Riley &lt;jimrtex@pipeline.com&gt; Subject: RFD: remove comp.sys.mac.announce moderated Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups, comp.sys.mac.misc,  news.groups.proposals, …&#039;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;#039;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt; From: Jim Riley &amp;lt;jimrtex@pipeline.com&amp;gt; Subject: RFD: remove comp.sys.mac.announce moderated Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups, comp.sys.mac.misc,  news.groups.proposals, …&amp;#039;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
From: Jim Riley &amp;lt;jimrtex@pipeline.com&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: RFD: remove comp.sys.mac.announce moderated&lt;br /&gt;
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups, comp.sys.mac.misc,&lt;br /&gt;
 news.groups.proposals, comp.sys.mac.apps, comp.sys.mac.announce&lt;br /&gt;
Followup-To: news.groups.proposals&lt;br /&gt;
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 17:09:13 -0500&lt;br /&gt;
Organization: http://www.big-8.org/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
                      REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)&lt;br /&gt;
                      remove comp.sys.mac.announce&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) to remove the moderated&lt;br /&gt;
newsgroup comp.sys.mac.announce.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
RATIONALE: remove comp.sys.mac.announce&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The last approved article was in March 2000.  Over the last 5 years of&lt;br /&gt;
activity, approvals were increasingly infrequent (10, 6, 3, 1, and 1&lt;br /&gt;
for the years 1996 to 2000, respectively).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Alternatively to removal, the group could be assigned a new moderator.&lt;br /&gt;
Kathy Morgan has volunteered to moderate if there is interest in&lt;br /&gt;
reviving the group.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As an announcement group, conversion to an unmoderated status is not&lt;br /&gt;
appropriate.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
HISTORY:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The newsgroup comp.sys.mac.announce was created as part of a&lt;br /&gt;
re-organization of the comp.sys.mac (CSM) hierarchy in March 1990 that&lt;br /&gt;
created CSM.announce, CSM.apps, CSM.comm, CSM.games, CSM.system, and&lt;br /&gt;
CSM.wanted, and renamed comp.sys.mac to CSM.misc.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The comp.sys.mac hierarchy had its origin with the creation of the&lt;br /&gt;
unmoderated net.micro.mac in November 1984, and the moderated&lt;br /&gt;
mod.computers.mac in October 1985.  mod.computers.mac was renamed to&lt;br /&gt;
mod.mac in March 1986.  During the Great Renaming, net.micro.mac was&lt;br /&gt;
renamed to comp.sys.mac and mod.mac was renamed to&lt;br /&gt;
comp.sys.mac.digest.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Three groups, CSM.hypercard, CSM.hardware, and CSM.programmer were&lt;br /&gt;
added in October 1987, March 1988, and October 1989, respectively.&lt;br /&gt;
Frustration with the piecemeal addition of newsgroups led to the&lt;br /&gt;
invention of the multi-group re-organization that resulted in creation&lt;br /&gt;
of 7 groups, including CSM.announce in March 1990.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Additional hierarchy changes include:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
CSM.datatbases created in January 1992.&lt;br /&gt;
CSM.advocacy created in September 1992.&lt;br /&gt;
CSM.oop.macapp3 and CSM.oop.misc created in November 1992.&lt;br /&gt;
CSM.oop.tcl in April 1993.&lt;br /&gt;
CSM.portables created in April 1993.&lt;br /&gt;
CSM.scitech created in May 1993.&lt;br /&gt;
CSM.graphics created in November 1993.&lt;br /&gt;
CSM.programmer.codewarrior created in August 1994.&lt;br /&gt;
CSM.programmer (CSMP) split into CSMP.help, CSMP.info, CSMP.misc,&lt;br /&gt;
   and CSMP.tools in November 1994.&lt;br /&gt;
CSM.hardware (CSMH) split into CSMH.misc, CSMH.storage, and&lt;br /&gt;
   CSMH.video, and CSM.printing in April 1995.&lt;br /&gt;
CSM.games (CSMG) split into CSMG.action, CSMG.adventure,&lt;br /&gt;
   CSMG.announce, CSMG.flight-sim, CSMG.marketplace, CSMG.misc, and&lt;br /&gt;
   CSMG.strategic in May 1995.&lt;br /&gt;
CSM.programmer.games created in October 1995.&lt;br /&gt;
CSM.oop.powerplant in March 1996.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;From the time of its creation in March 1990 until late 1995,&lt;br /&gt;
comp.sys.mac.announce had roughly 5 to 10 approved articles per month.&lt;br /&gt;
Beginning in late 1995, approvals became increasingly infrequent, with&lt;br /&gt;
only a total of 5 approvals from 1998 to 2000.  The last approval was&lt;br /&gt;
in March 2000.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
CHARTER:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The newsgroup line is:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
comp.sys.mac.announce	Important notices for Macintosh users.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The charter (extracted from the CFV):&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Designed to be a low-volume, high-content group for distribution of&lt;br /&gt;
information, regular postings (like the &amp;quot;where to find...&amp;quot;, and&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;introduction to comp.sys.mac&amp;quot; documents, postings like virus alerts&lt;br /&gt;
and other forms of information (product announcements? press&lt;br /&gt;
releases?) to be determined.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
PROCEDURE: &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The full group removal procedure is documented here:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:rmgroup&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Those who wish to comment on this request to remove this newsgroup should&lt;br /&gt;
subscribe to news.groups.proposals and participate in the relevant threads &lt;br /&gt;
in that newsgroup.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To this end, the followup header of this RFD has been set to &lt;br /&gt;
news.groups.proposals.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
All discussion of active proposals should be posted to news.groups.proposals.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If desired by the readership of closely affected groups, the discussion&lt;br /&gt;
may be crossposted to those groups, but care must be taken to ensure that&lt;br /&gt;
all discussion appears in news.groups.proposals as well.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
DISTRIBUTION:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This document has been posted to the following newsgroups:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  news.announce.newgroups&lt;br /&gt;
  news.groups.proposals&lt;br /&gt;
  comp.sys.mac.announce&lt;br /&gt;
  comp.sys.mac.misc&lt;br /&gt;
  comp.sys.mac.apps&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The proponent will also post pointers to:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  comp.sys.mac.comm&lt;br /&gt;
  comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc&lt;br /&gt;
  comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage&lt;br /&gt;
  comp.sys.mac.hardware.video&lt;br /&gt;
  comp.sys.mac.portables&lt;br /&gt;
  comp.sys.mac.printing&lt;br /&gt;
  comp.sys.mac.programmer.help&lt;br /&gt;
  comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc&lt;br /&gt;
  comp.sys.mac.system&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
PROPONENT: &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Jim Riley &amp;lt;jimrtex@pipeline.com&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
CHANGE HISTORY: &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2007-04-27     1st RFD&lt;br /&gt;
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