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		<title>Moleski: Created page with &#039;&lt;pre&gt; From: Jim Riley &lt;jimrtex@pipeline.com&gt; Subject: RFD: remove soc.culture.pakistan.moderated moderated Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan, news.announce.newgroups,  soc.culture…&#039;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;#039;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt; From: Jim Riley &amp;lt;jimrtex@pipeline.com&amp;gt; Subject: RFD: remove soc.culture.pakistan.moderated moderated Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan, news.announce.newgroups,  soc.culture…&amp;#039;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
From: Jim Riley &amp;lt;jimrtex@pipeline.com&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: RFD: remove soc.culture.pakistan.moderated moderated&lt;br /&gt;
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan, news.announce.newgroups,&lt;br /&gt;
 soc.culture.pakistan.moderated, news.groups.proposals&lt;br /&gt;
Followup-To: news.groups.proposals&lt;br /&gt;
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 11:14:23 -0500&lt;br /&gt;
Organization: http://www.big-8.org/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
                      REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)&lt;br /&gt;
                 remove soc.culture.pakistan.moderated&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) to remove the moderated&lt;br /&gt;
newsgroup soc.culture.pakistan.moderated.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
RATIONALE: remove soc.culture.pakistan.moderated&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Note: There are separate RFD&amp;#039;s proposing the removal of&lt;br /&gt;
soc.culture.pakistan.moderated, soc.culture.pakistan.education, and&lt;br /&gt;
soc.culture.pakistan.history.  It is not necessary that all 3 groups&lt;br /&gt;
share the same fate.  It is conceivable that one group be removed, one&lt;br /&gt;
converted to an unmoderated status, and one assigned a new moderator.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The last approved article submitted to soc.culture.pakistan.moderated&lt;br /&gt;
occured in June 1998.  Over the next year, there were about a dozen&lt;br /&gt;
approved articles cross-posted across the entire soc.culture.pakistan&lt;br /&gt;
hierarchy that were not specific to soc.culture.pakistan.moderated.&lt;br /&gt;
There also were continued posting of FAQ&amp;#039;s and similar materials.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If soc.culture.pakistan.moderated were removed, discussion of culture&lt;br /&gt;
in Pakistan could continue to occur in the unmoderated&lt;br /&gt;
soc.culture.pakistan (SCP), and where topical, in the unmoderated&lt;br /&gt;
SCP.politics, SCP.religion, and SCP.sports.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Alternatives include:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(1) Removal of soc.culture.pakistan.moderated.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(2) Assignment of a new moderator.  It may be feasible to simply block&lt;br /&gt;
cross-posts and do spam filtering.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(3) Because of its name, it is not appropriate to convert&lt;br /&gt;
soc.culture.pakistan.moderated to an unmoderated status.  In addition&lt;br /&gt;
it would be redundant to the unmoderated soc.culture.pakistan.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
HISTORY:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The newsgroup soc.culture.pakistan.moderated was created in June 1996&lt;br /&gt;
as part of a re-organization of the soc.culture.pakistan (SCP)&lt;br /&gt;
hierarchy that included creation of the moderated groups&lt;br /&gt;
SCP.moderated, SCP.education, and SCP.history; and the unmoderated&lt;br /&gt;
groups SCP.politics, SCP.religion, and SCP.sports.  The&lt;br /&gt;
re-organization required about 9 months, including a re-vote due to&lt;br /&gt;
irregularites during the first CFV.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The newsgroup soc.culture.pakistan was created in March 1990.  There&lt;br /&gt;
was a proposal to convert the group to a moderated status in February&lt;br /&gt;
1991, but it never proceeded to a vote.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
During the two year active period of soc.culture.pakistan.moderated&lt;br /&gt;
from June 1996 to June 1998, there were roughly 40 threads per month.&lt;br /&gt;
A large share of the content were reposts from the Pakistan News&lt;br /&gt;
Service, rather than user initiated discussion.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The last approvals specific to soc.culture.pakistan.moderated were in&lt;br /&gt;
June 1998.  There were about a dozen approvals widely cross-posted&lt;br /&gt;
across the soc.culture.pakistan hierarchy the following year.  In&lt;br /&gt;
addition, there were continued posting of FAQ&amp;#039;s and other guidelines&lt;br /&gt;
that continued through 2006.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
CHARTER:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The newsgroup line is:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
soc.culture.pakistan.moderated	Discussions on Pakistan.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The charter (extracted from the CFV):&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The newsgroup will be for carrying on discussions on Pakistan in a&lt;br /&gt;
moderated environment.  All topics not covered by other newsgroups in&lt;br /&gt;
soc.culture.hierarchy are welcome.  The moderation will keep the&lt;br /&gt;
discussion relevant to Pakistan.  This is an alternate for readers&lt;br /&gt;
wishing to take part in discussions without high noise to signal&lt;br /&gt;
ratio.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
PROCEDURE: &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The full group removal procedure is documented here:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:rmgroup&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Those who wish to comment on this request to remove this newsgroup should&lt;br /&gt;
subscribe to news.groups.proposals and participate in the relevant threads &lt;br /&gt;
in that newsgroup.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To this end, the followup header of this RFD has been set to &lt;br /&gt;
news.groups.proposals.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
All discussion of active proposals should be posted to news.groups.proposals.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If desired by the readership of closely affected groups, the discussion&lt;br /&gt;
may be crossposted to those groups, but care must be taken to ensure that&lt;br /&gt;
all discussion appears in news.groups.proposals as well.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
DISTRIBUTION:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This document has been posted to the following newsgroups:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  news.announce.newgroups&lt;br /&gt;
  news.groups.proposals&lt;br /&gt;
  soc.culture.pakistan.moderated&lt;br /&gt;
  soc.culture.pakistan&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The proponent will also post pointers to:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  soc.culture.pakistan.politics&lt;br /&gt;
  soc.culture.pakistan.religion&lt;br /&gt;
  soc.culture.pakistan.sports&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
PROPONENT: &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Jim Riley &amp;lt;jimrtex@pipeline.com&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
CHANGE HISTORY: &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2007-04-14     1st RFD&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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