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		<title>Moleski: Created page with &#039;&lt;pre&gt; From: Jim Riley &lt;jimrtex@pipeline.com&gt; Subject: RFD: remove comp.object.moderated moderated Newsgroups: comp.object, comp.object.moderated, news.announce.newgroups,  news.g…&#039;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;#039;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt; From: Jim Riley &amp;lt;jimrtex@pipeline.com&amp;gt; Subject: RFD: remove comp.object.moderated moderated Newsgroups: comp.object, comp.object.moderated, news.announce.newgroups,  news.g…&amp;#039;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
From: Jim Riley &amp;lt;jimrtex@pipeline.com&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: RFD: remove comp.object.moderated moderated&lt;br /&gt;
Newsgroups: comp.object, comp.object.moderated, news.announce.newgroups,&lt;br /&gt;
 news.groups.proposals&lt;br /&gt;
Followup-To: news.groups.proposals&lt;br /&gt;
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 11:12:29 -0500&lt;br /&gt;
Organization: http://www.big-8.org/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
                      REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)&lt;br /&gt;
                      remove comp.object.moderated&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) to remove the moderated&lt;br /&gt;
newsgroup comp.object.moderated.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
RATIONALE: remove comp.object.moderated&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The last approved article was in April 2000.  The active lifetime of&lt;br /&gt;
the group was relatively short, from December 1998 to April 2000, when&lt;br /&gt;
the system hosting the moderation was hacked.  Combined with a job&lt;br /&gt;
change for the moderator, the group never recovered.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If the group is removed, discussion of object-oriented issues may&lt;br /&gt;
continue in the unmoderated group, comp.object.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Alternatively, a new moderator could be assigned to the group. Current&lt;br /&gt;
traffic in comp.object averages 15-20 articles per day, so there may&lt;br /&gt;
be enough discussion to sustain both an unmoderated and moderated&lt;br /&gt;
group.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Because of its name, it does not make sense to convert the group to an&lt;br /&gt;
unmoderated status, and in any event, it would be redundant to the&lt;br /&gt;
unmoderated comp.object.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
HISTORY:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The newsgroup comp.object.moderated was created in December 1998 as an&lt;br /&gt;
alternative to the unmoderated comp.object, which was created in&lt;br /&gt;
September 1989.  The group comp.object.moderated was active until&lt;br /&gt;
April 2000, when the system hosting moderation was hacked, which&lt;br /&gt;
coupled with a job change for the moderator resulted in the group&lt;br /&gt;
being interrupted permanently.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
During its 17 months of active approvals, there were typically 20 to&lt;br /&gt;
40 threads per month.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Since 2000, there has been off and on discussion about reactivating&lt;br /&gt;
the group, but this has not occured.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
CHARTER:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The newsgroup line is:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
comp.object.moderated	A moderated forum for Object-oriented issues.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The charter (extracted from the CFV):&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Comp.object.moderated is a moderated news group for discussion of&lt;br /&gt;
issues directly related to Object-oriented theory and Object-oriented&lt;br /&gt;
practice, and of general interest to the Object-oriented community.&lt;br /&gt;
Any such articles are welcome, and are recommendations of alternative&lt;br /&gt;
approaches in response to questions directly related to&lt;br /&gt;
Object-oriented theory or practice.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
PROCEDURE: &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The full group removal procedure is documented here:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:rmgroup&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Those who wish to comment on this request to remove this newsgroup should&lt;br /&gt;
subscribe to news.groups.proposals and participate in the relevant threads &lt;br /&gt;
in that newsgroup.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To this end, the followup header of this RFD has been set to &lt;br /&gt;
news.groups.proposals.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
All discussion of active proposals should be posted to news.groups.proposals.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If desired by the readership of closely affected groups, the discussion&lt;br /&gt;
may be crossposted to those groups, but care must be taken to ensure that&lt;br /&gt;
all discussion appears in news.groups.proposals as well.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
DISTRIBUTION:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This document has been posted to the following newsgroups:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  news.announce.newgroups&lt;br /&gt;
  news.groups.proposals&lt;br /&gt;
  comp.object.moderated&lt;br /&gt;
  comp.object&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
PROPONENT: &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Jim Riley &amp;lt;jimrtex@pipeline.com&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
CHANGE HISTORY: &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2007-04-17     1st RFD&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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