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Subject: RFD: remove comp.patents moderated

From: Jim Riley <jimrtex@pipeline.com>

Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 15:52:32 +0000 (UTC)

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                      REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)

                          remove comp.patents



This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) to remove the moderated

newsgroup comp.patents.





RATIONALE: remove comp.patents



The last approved message was in September 1999 after a brief

attempted revival (2 months).  The period of primary activity lasted

for 2 years from October 1991 to November 1993.



Alternatives include:



(1) Assigning a new moderator.



(2) Converting the group to unmoderated status.  As a discussion

group, it may be appropriate for conversion to an unmoderated status.

However, it is unlikely that discussion would be limited to computer

patents, and the group would simply be a misnamed cousin of

misc.legal.computing and misc.int-property.



When the group was created, suggestions were made to place the group

in the misc.* hierarchy.  One counterargument made at that time (1991)

was that misc.* was not a widely distributed as comp.*.  This is no

longer the case.



In addition, users of news servers where the group is configured as

moderated will not see articles from servers where the group is

configured as unmoderated and vice versa.  A better course of action

if there is interest in discussion of this specific sub-topic could be

to create a sub-group of misc.legal.computing or misc.int-property.



(3) Remove the group.  Discussion of computer patents could continue

to occur in misc.legal.computing, misc.int-property, and

misc.legal.moderated, as well in computer groups for fields where a

patent might apply (eg comp.compression.research and

sci.crypt.research).





HISTORY:



The newsgroup comp.patents was created in October 1991, as part of a

proposal that also created the unmoderated newsgroups

misc.legal.computing and misc.int-property.



Approvals were fairly steady, roughly 3 threads per week, from October

1991 until November 1993, when they abruptly stopped.  The stoppage

was coincident with the creation of misc.legal.moderated, but I could

find no evidence of any deliberate connection between the two events.



Over the next couple of years, there were occasional comments about

comp.patents, and discussion about finding a new moderator, or

converting the group to an unmoderated status.  There were a few

threads in comp.patents cross-posted from misc.legal.moderated.



In October 1998 there was an attempt to revive the group with a new

moderator, and a few articles were approved.  In November 1998, the

new moderator posted that the robomoderator wasn't working yet.  In

July 1999, the robomoderator began operating and a few articles were

approved.



It doesn't appear that those posting had a clue that the "comp" in

'comp.patents' stood for computers.  In September 1999, the moderator

wrote, "the current moderator of comp.patents will give the

comp.patents newsgroup to someone worthy.  (I am no longer able to

take this forum where I had intended."  The next day he announced that

the group was closed pending appointment of a new moderator.  It has

remained closed since then.





CHARTER:



The newsgroup line is:



comp.patents		Discussing patents of computer technology.



The charter (from the CFV):



A group for the discussion of issues relating to patents and their

relationship to computer technology (hardware & software)



(although it is envisaged that the the nature of the subject would

allow discussions that are not necessarily restricted to computer

technology nor strictly to patents, but rather to be centered around

these topics.)



Examples include:



   -The provision of FAQ relating to basics of patent laws.

   -The social usefulness of software patents.

   -The patentability or patent status of a particular algorithm.

   -The international patent laws.

   -business transactions that involve the exchange of patent

    information, such as cross-licensing or litigation of patents.

   -recent court cases where companies or individuals have run into

    patent troubles.

   -other legal aspect of computers and technology





PROCEDURE: 



The full group removal procedure is documented here:



  http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:rmgroup



Those who wish to comment on this request to remove this newsgroup should

subscribe to news.groups.proposals and participate in the relevant threads 

in that newsgroup.



To this end, the followup header of this RFD has been set to 

news.groups.proposals.



All discussion of active proposals should be posted to news.groups.proposals.



If desired by the readership of closely affected groups, the discussion

may be crossposted to those groups, but care must be taken to ensure that

all discussion appears in news.groups.proposals as well.





DISTRIBUTION:



This document has been posted to the following newsgroups:



  news.announce.newgroups

  news.groups.proposals

  comp.patents

  misc.legal.computing

  misc.int-property



The proponent will also post pointers to:



  misc.legal.moderated (moderated)





PROPONENT: 



Jim Riley <jimrtex@pipeline.com>





CHANGE HISTORY: 



2007-03-05     1st RFD

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