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		<title>Moleski: Created page with &#039;&lt;pre&gt; From: F. Arnaud &lt;franck.a@club127.net&gt; Subject: RFD: talk.religion.vaishnava.dvaita Newsgroups: alt.religion.hindu, soc.culture.indian, rec.music.indian.misc,  news.announc…&#039;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;#039;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt; From: F. Arnaud &amp;lt;franck.a@club127.net&amp;gt; Subject: RFD: talk.religion.vaishnava.dvaita Newsgroups: alt.religion.hindu, soc.culture.indian, rec.music.indian.misc,  news.announc…&amp;#039;&lt;/p&gt;
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From: F. Arnaud &amp;lt;franck.a@club127.net&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: RFD: talk.religion.vaishnava.dvaita&lt;br /&gt;
Newsgroups: alt.religion.hindu, soc.culture.indian, rec.music.indian.misc,&lt;br /&gt;
 news.announce.newgroups, news.groups.proposals&lt;br /&gt;
Followup-To: news.groups.proposals&lt;br /&gt;
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:15:28 -0600&lt;br /&gt;
Organization: http://www.big-8.org/&lt;br /&gt;
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                      REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)&lt;br /&gt;
            unmoderated group talk.religion.vaishnava.dvaita&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of the&lt;br /&gt;
unmoderated Usenet newsgroup, talk.religion.vaishnava.dvaita.&lt;br /&gt;
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NEWSGROUPS LINE: talk.religion.vaishnava.dvaita&lt;br /&gt;
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talk.religion.vaishnava.dvaita	The tradition of Acharya Madhva.&lt;br /&gt;
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RATIONALE: talk.religion.vaishnava.dvaita&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The objective is to create a newsgroup in which the strict practices &amp;amp;&lt;br /&gt;
philosophies of the Dvaita school of Vedanta can be discussed &amp;amp; debated.&lt;br /&gt;
Dvaita (more formally known as Tattvavaada) followers believe in the&lt;br /&gt;
absolute supremacy of Vishnu over Shiva and all other deities.  Also,&lt;br /&gt;
Dvaita followers recognize that an individuals&amp;#039; souls (jiiva) are distinct&lt;br /&gt;
and separate entities from Vishnu (also known as the Supreme Lord, or&lt;br /&gt;
Iishvara), and that the souls depend on Vishnu for salvation.  A separate&lt;br /&gt;
newsgroup for Dvaita discussion, separate from all other Hindu discussion&lt;br /&gt;
on Usenet, separate from other forums where other aspects and schools of&lt;br /&gt;
Vedanta are discussed, would be a great benefit to Usenet and to followers&lt;br /&gt;
of the faith.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Back in 1999, a similar proposal was presented to the NAN moderator for a&lt;br /&gt;
newsgroup in the soc.* hierarchy - soc.religion.vaishnava.dvaita; this&lt;br /&gt;
proposal failed in a CFV by a relatively small margin - 90 YES votes; 38&lt;br /&gt;
NO votes;  where 128 votes would have been requires to pass the group.  So&lt;br /&gt;
now talk.religion.vaishnava.dvaita is proposed eight years later, with the&lt;br /&gt;
hopes of creating this necessary newsgroup for the followers and students&lt;br /&gt;
of Tattvavaada.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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CHARTER:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
talk.religion.vaishnava.dvaita is an unmoderated newsgroup which will&lt;br /&gt;
serve as a forum for discussing the tradition of Acharya Madhva.  It is&lt;br /&gt;
not on-topic to post commercial or personal ads of any kind to&lt;br /&gt;
talk.religion.vaishnava.dvaita.  Debate is on-topic, but personal attacks&lt;br /&gt;
are heavily frowned upon.  Posts containing binaries are not on-topic,&lt;br /&gt;
with the exception of PGP type signatures and X-Face avatars.  All posts&lt;br /&gt;
must be in plain text and not in HTML.&lt;br /&gt;
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PROCEDURE:&lt;br /&gt;
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For more information on the newsgroup creation process, please see:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:creation&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Those who wish to influence the development of this RFD and its final&lt;br /&gt;
resolution should subscribe to news.groups.proposals and participate in the&lt;br /&gt;
relevant threads in that newsgroup.  This is both a courtesy to groups in&lt;br /&gt;
which discussion of creating a new group is off-topic as well as the best&lt;br /&gt;
method of making sure that one&amp;#039;s comments or criticisms are heard.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
All discussion of active proposals should be posted to news.groups.proposals.&lt;br /&gt;
To this end, the &amp;#039;Followup-To&amp;#039; header of this RFD has been set to this group.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If desired by the readership of closely affected groups, the discussion&lt;br /&gt;
may be crossposted to those groups, but care must be taken to ensure&lt;br /&gt;
that all discussion appears in news.groups.proposals as well.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We urge those who would like to read or post in the proposed newsgroup&lt;br /&gt;
to make a comment to that effect in this thread; we ask proponents to&lt;br /&gt;
keep a list of such positive posts with the relevant message ID&lt;br /&gt;
(e.g., Barney Fife, &amp;lt;4JGdnb60fsMzHA7ZnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@sysmatrix.net&amp;gt;).&lt;br /&gt;
Such lists of positive feedback for the proposal may constitute good&lt;br /&gt;
evidence that the group will be well-used if it is created.&lt;br /&gt;
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DISTRIBUTION:&lt;br /&gt;
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This document has been posted to the following newsgroups:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  news.announce.newgroups&lt;br /&gt;
  news.groups.proposals&lt;br /&gt;
  rec.music.indian.misc&lt;br /&gt;
  soc.culture.indian&lt;br /&gt;
  alt.religion.hindu&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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PROPONENT:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
F. Arnaud &amp;lt;franck.a@club127.net&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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CHANGE HISTORY:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2007-02-26     1st RFD&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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