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<p>Created page with &#039;&lt;pre&gt; From: The Big-8 Management Board &lt;board@big-8.org&gt; Subject: 2nd RFD: remove rec.games.trading-cards.announce moderated (LAST CALL FOR COMMENTS) Newsgroups: news.announce.ne…&#039;</p> <p><b>New page</b></p><div>&lt;pre&gt;<br /> From: The Big-8 Management Board &lt;board@big-8.org&gt;<br /> Subject: 2nd RFD: remove rec.games.trading-cards.announce moderated (LAST CALL FOR COMMENTS)<br /> Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups, rec.games.trading-cards.misc,<br /> rec.games.trading-cards.announce, news.groups.proposals,<br /> rec.games.trading-cards.magic.misc<br /> Followup-To: news.groups.proposals<br /> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:14:57 -0600<br /> Organization: http://www.big-8.org/<br /> <br /> REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)<br /> remove rec.games.trading-cards.announce<br /> <br /> This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) to remove the moderated<br /> newsgroup rec.games.trading-cards.announce.<br /> <br /> <br /> PROCEDURE:<br /> <br /> The B8MB plans to begin voting on this proposal after five days. Please<br /> offer any final discussion or comments before the end of this waiting<br /> period. Voting may take up to one week (7 days); a result will be posted<br /> following the end of the voting period.<br /> <br /> All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.proposals.<br /> <br /> The full group removal procedure is documented here:<br /> <br /> http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:rmgroup<br /> <br /> <br /> SUMMARY OF DISCUSSION:<br /> <br /> Two comments were received. The first said that most announcements<br /> and FAQ&#039;s are specific to a particular game such as &#039;Magic: the<br /> Gathering&#039;, and would be more appropriate for the newsgroup(s)<br /> specific to a particular game. More general announcements can be made<br /> rec.games.trading-cards.misc, which is a low traffic group.<br /> <br /> The second comment was from a participant in RGTC.jyhad since 1996,<br /> who said that, &quot;no-one on that NG will miss rgtc.announce.&quot;<br /> <br /> <br /> RATIONALE: remove rec.games.trading-cards.announce<br /> <br /> The newsgroup rec.games.trading-cards.announce has not had any<br /> approved messages since July 1998.<br /> <br /> A month earlier, the moderator posted an article titled:<br /> &#039;[admin][important] The future of this group&#039;, stating that:<br /> <br /> &quot;This group isn&#039;t working... I know that. The question is what to do<br /> about it.&quot;.<br /> <br /> He said that he didn&#039;t have the time to moderate the group, and<br /> requested anyone who wanted to replace him as moderator to contact<br /> him. He mentioned that official submissions from game producers had<br /> &quot;just about hit zero of late&quot;.<br /> <br /> As an announcement group, it would not be appropriate to convert the<br /> group to an unmoderated status.<br /> <br /> <br /> HISTORY: <br /> <br /> The newsgroup rec.games.trading-cards.announce was created in December<br /> 1994 as part of the re-organization of the rec.games.deckmaster.*<br /> sub-hierarchy. As part of this re-organization, the 2 existing groups<br /> in the rec.games.deckmaster.* hierarchy, along with 5 new groups were<br /> placed in a newly established rec.games.trading-cards.* (RGTC)<br /> hierarchy.<br /> <br /> The new groups were RGTC.announce, RGTC.jyhad, RGTC.magic.rules,<br /> RGTC.magic.strategy, and RGTC.magic.misc. The renamed groups were<br /> RGTC.misc and RGTC.marketplace, renamed from rec.games.deckmaster and<br /> rec.games.deckmaster.marketplace, respectively.<br /> <br /> Approvals in RGTC.announce were roughly 3 to 4 per week from December<br /> 1994 to July 1998. There have been no approvals in the 8-1/2 years<br /> since then.<br /> <br /> Historical Footnote: In the CFV, the creation of the new groups was<br /> handled independently from the hierarchy renaming. Voters were first<br /> asked to approve creation of rec.games.deckmaster.announce, etc.; and<br /> then as a second ballot item asked to vote on renaming<br /> rec.games.deckmaster.* to rec.games.trading-cards.*<br /> <br /> <br /> DISTRIBUTION:<br /> <br /> This document has been posted to the following newsgroups:<br /> <br /> news.announce.newgroups<br /> news.groups.proposals<br /> rec.games.trading-cards.announce<br /> rec.games.trading-cards.misc<br /> rec.games.trading-cards.magic.misc<br /> <br /> The proponent will also post pointers to:<br /> <br /> rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad<br /> rec.games.trading-cards.startrek<br /> <br /> <br /> CHARTER:<br /> <br /> The newsgroup line is:<br /> <br /> |rec.games.trading-cards.announce Important news about trading card games.<br /> <br /> The charter extracted from the CFV:<br /> <br /> This group is for various important announcements regarding trading<br /> card games. Topics include product announcements from game<br /> manufacturers (Wizards of the Coast, TSR, etc.), information on<br /> tournaments and gaming conventions, final versions of expansion card<br /> lists (possibly along with one or two early versions, at the<br /> discretion of the moderator), and other similar items.<br /> ...<br /> Announcements of sales, auctions, or trades of cards are not permitted<br /> in this group, as they belong in the newsgroup<br /> rec.games.?.marketplace.<br /> <br /> <br /> PROPONENT: <br /> <br /> Jim Riley &lt;jimrtex@pipeline.com&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> CHANGE HISTORY: <br /> <br /> 2007-02-15 1st RFD<br /> 2007-02-26 1st RFD<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;</div>

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