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		<title>Moleski: Created page with &#039;&lt;pre&gt; From: Patrick Ashley Meuser&quot;-Bianca&quot; &lt;pmeuser@cogeco.ca&gt; Subject: RFD: sci.cybernetics Newsgroups: alt.comp.convergence, news.announce.newgroups, alt.cyberspace,  alt.comp,…&#039;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;#039;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt; From: Patrick Ashley Meuser&amp;quot;-Bianca&amp;quot; &amp;lt;pmeuser@cogeco.ca&amp;gt; Subject: RFD: sci.cybernetics Newsgroups: alt.comp.convergence, news.announce.newgroups, alt.cyberspace,  alt.comp,…&amp;#039;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
From: Patrick Ashley Meuser&amp;quot;-Bianca&amp;quot; &amp;lt;pmeuser@cogeco.ca&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: RFD: sci.cybernetics&lt;br /&gt;
Newsgroups: alt.comp.convergence, news.announce.newgroups, alt.cyberspace,&lt;br /&gt;
 alt.comp, news.groups.proposals&lt;br /&gt;
Followup-To: news.groups.proposals&lt;br /&gt;
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 15:24:49 -0600&lt;br /&gt;
Organization: http://www.big-8.org/&lt;br /&gt;
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                      REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)&lt;br /&gt;
                   unmoderated group sci.cybernetics&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of the&lt;br /&gt;
unmoderated Usenet newsgroup, sci.cybernetics.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
NEWSGROUPS LINE: sci.cybernetics&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
sci.cybernetics	(no description yet)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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RATIONALE: sci.cybernetics&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Cybernetics is the study of communications and control systems in economics,&lt;br /&gt;
ecology, technology, biology, physiology, ecology, psychology, sociology,&lt;br /&gt;
and anthropology.  The term derives from the Greek Kybernetes meaning&lt;br /&gt;
steersmanship or helmsman. This group is to encompass the science of&lt;br /&gt;
cybernetics at the degrees in which society and the humanities form a&lt;br /&gt;
synergy with technology on the Internet.  The concept of a society or,&lt;br /&gt;
advancement in the humanities for instance, serves as the basis of this&lt;br /&gt;
school of thought, or philosophy in these fields, as serves the basis for&lt;br /&gt;
this group&amp;#039;s existence, to survive on the Internet as a forum for discussion&lt;br /&gt;
ranging about control systems and feed-back loops, to programming machine&lt;br /&gt;
intelligence and cipher theory as its aggregates could be modelled, the&lt;br /&gt;
responsibility of the poster to maintain interest in messages and threads.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
CHARTER:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The focus of this group is the investigation and examination of cybernetics&lt;br /&gt;
in a forum for formal research involving cybernetics as a science.  The&lt;br /&gt;
purpose of this group is to establish the ground set for soc.cybernetics,&lt;br /&gt;
humanities.cybernetics.  The science of cybernetics focuses on differences&lt;br /&gt;
in fields of technological where the development of command and control,&lt;br /&gt;
communications, guidance, and vision apply to participants whom are into&lt;br /&gt;
developing interests in the main areas of cybernetics research.  This group&lt;br /&gt;
is to promote commercial and scientific awareness generally serving in the&lt;br /&gt;
betterment of humanity with technology.  Commercial involvement, theory,&lt;br /&gt;
algorithms, heuristic, and engrams are encouraged as the primitives of this&lt;br /&gt;
group form a base for developing cybernetics as the object of its&lt;br /&gt;
subscribers to communicate within circles that describe the science to the&lt;br /&gt;
humanities and society.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
PROCEDURE:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For more information on the newsgroup creation process, please see:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:creation&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Those who wish to influence the development of this RFD and its final&lt;br /&gt;
resolution should subscribe to news.groups.proposals and participate in the&lt;br /&gt;
relevant threads in that newsgroup.  This is both a courtesy to groups in&lt;br /&gt;
which discussion of creating a new group is off-topic as well as the best&lt;br /&gt;
method of making sure that one&amp;#039;s comments or criticisms are heard.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
All discussion of active proposals should be posted to news.groups.proposals.&lt;br /&gt;
To this end, the &amp;#039;Followup-To&amp;#039; header of this RFD has been set to this group.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If desired by the readership of closely affected groups, the discussion&lt;br /&gt;
may be crossposted to those groups, but care must be taken to ensure&lt;br /&gt;
that all discussion appears in news.groups.proposals as well.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We urge those who would like to read or post in the proposed newsgroup&lt;br /&gt;
to make a comment to that effect in this thread; we ask proponents to&lt;br /&gt;
keep a list of such positive posts with the relevant message ID&lt;br /&gt;
(e.g., Barney Fife, &amp;lt;4JGdnb60fsMzHA7ZnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@sysmatrix.net&amp;gt;).&lt;br /&gt;
Such lists of positive feedback for the proposal may constitute good&lt;br /&gt;
evidence that the group will be well-used if it is created.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
DISTRIBUTION:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This document has been posted to the following newsgroups:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  news.announce.newgroups&lt;br /&gt;
  news.groups.proposals&lt;br /&gt;
  alt.comp&lt;br /&gt;
  alt.comp.convergence&lt;br /&gt;
  alt.cyberspace&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The proponent will also post pointers to:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  comp.ai (moderated)&lt;br /&gt;
  comp.ai.fuzzy&lt;br /&gt;
  comp.ai.vision (moderated)&lt;br /&gt;
  comp.ai.doc-analysis.misc&lt;br /&gt;
  comp.ai.genetic&lt;br /&gt;
  comp.cell-automata.theory&lt;br /&gt;
  comp.ai.edu&lt;br /&gt;
  comp.ai.alife&lt;br /&gt;
  comp.robotics.research (moderated)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
PROPONENT:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Patrick Ashley Meuser&amp;quot;-Bianca&amp;quot; &amp;lt;pmeuser@cogeco.ca&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
CHANGE HISTORY:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2007-01-31     1st RFD&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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