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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;#039;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt; From: The Big-8 Management Board &amp;lt;board@big-8.org&amp;gt; Subject: 2nd RFD: comp.lang.xharbour (LAST CALL FOR COMMENTS) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups, news.groups.proposals,…&amp;#039;&lt;/p&gt;
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From: The Big-8 Management Board &amp;lt;board@big-8.org&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: 2nd RFD: comp.lang.xharbour (LAST CALL FOR COMMENTS)&lt;br /&gt;
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups, news.groups.proposals,&lt;br /&gt;
 comp.lang.clipper&lt;br /&gt;
Followup-To: news.groups.proposals&lt;br /&gt;
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 13:42:48 -0600&lt;br /&gt;
Organization: http://www.big-8.org/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
                      REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)&lt;br /&gt;
                           comp.lang.xharbour&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of the&lt;br /&gt;
unmoderated Usenet newsgroup, comp.lang.xharbour.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
PROCEDURE:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The B8MB plans to begin voting on this proposal after five days.  Please&lt;br /&gt;
offer any final discussion or comments before the end of this waiting&lt;br /&gt;
period.  Voting may take up to one week (7 days); a result will be posted&lt;br /&gt;
following the end of the voting period.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.proposals.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The full group creation procedure is documented here:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:proposals&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
NEWSGROUPS LINE: comp.lang.xharbour&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
comp.lang.xharbour	xHarbour programming, Clipper, and xBase.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
SUMMARY OF DISCUSSION:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Several xHarbour users and suporters supported the creation of a new&lt;br /&gt;
comp.lang.xharbour Usenet news group. They expressed their support&lt;br /&gt;
via a reply on the original RFD message in the comp.lang.clipper and&lt;br /&gt;
news.groups.proposals newsgroups.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The RFD got a total of 13 positive responses so far.  No negative&lt;br /&gt;
response for this proposal was found in any of the newsgroups.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The following messages are offered as evidence of support of this proposal:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.clipper/msg/5225e343af0c437c&lt;br /&gt;
  http://groups.google.com/group/news.groups.proposals/msg/3dd71507e8e591a3&lt;br /&gt;
  http://groups.google.com/group/news.groups.proposals/msg/c8c89b559c8bc066&lt;br /&gt;
  http://groups.google.com/group/news.groups.proposals/msg/4d2dc18fa67c4356&lt;br /&gt;
  http://groups.google.com/group/news.groups.proposals/msg/b7ded589ab73229e&lt;br /&gt;
  http://groups.google.com/group/news.groups.proposals/msg/a3368d247bcf51e7&lt;br /&gt;
  http://groups.google.com/group/news.groups.proposals/msg/7447c187c7cff870&lt;br /&gt;
  http://groups.google.com/group/news.groups.proposals/msg/a0378c0a5648ca17&lt;br /&gt;
  http://groups.google.com/group/news.groups.proposals/msg/05f23ad1f80d7301&lt;br /&gt;
  http://groups.google.com/group/news.groups.proposals/msg/987548298954b0cc&lt;br /&gt;
  http://groups.google.com/group/news.groups.proposals/msg/360f0f04a0b9f59b&lt;br /&gt;
  http://groups.google.com/group/news.groups.proposals/msg/e051212064604a47&lt;br /&gt;
  http://groups.google.com/group/news.groups.proposals/msg/e93f868f4f89e698&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
RATIONALE: comp.lang.xharbour&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
xHarbour is a computer language (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XHarbour).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are thousands of xHarbour developers throughout the world, supporting&lt;br /&gt;
fairly busy multiple news groups at:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  news://news.xharbour.org/xHarbour&lt;br /&gt;
  news://news.xharbour.org/xHarbour.Spanish.Portuguese&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Additionally there are multiple forums on numerous other web sites, none&lt;br /&gt;
offering the propagation and overall utility of Usenet. It seems that&lt;br /&gt;
there&amp;#039;s sufficient interest in xHarbour to support an xHarbour specific&lt;br /&gt;
comp.lang group.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The main purposes of this group, therefore, are to serve as a consolidated,&lt;br /&gt;
dedicated group, and to make it easier for new users to locate xHarbour&lt;br /&gt;
related discussion, and help forum.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
TRAFFIC ANALYSIS:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Current xHarbour specific news groups traffic averages some 1,500 messages&lt;br /&gt;
per month. There is additionally some traffic scattered through multiple&lt;br /&gt;
other xHarbour 3d party forums such as:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  http://fivetechsoft.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=3&lt;br /&gt;
  http://br.groups.yahoo.com/group/miniguibrasil&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
as well as multiple other general purpose forums.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
CHARTER:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
comp.lang.xharbour is an unmoderated newsgroup which will serve as&lt;br /&gt;
a forum for discussing the xHarbour programming language. The group&lt;br /&gt;
will serve both those who program in xHarbour and those who work&lt;br /&gt;
on developing the language. Topics that may be discussed include:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
        - Announcements of new versions of the language.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
        - Design and internals of the xHarbour language.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
        - Design, programming, and administration of systems&lt;br /&gt;
                    and applications which use the xHarbour language.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
        - Strengths, weaknesses, and general usage of xHarbour&lt;br /&gt;
                    to solve real world problems.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
        - Technical discussion of products or themes of interest&lt;br /&gt;
                    to xHarbour developers, including third-party add-on&lt;br /&gt;
          products, their usage, advantages and drawbacks, and&lt;br /&gt;
          links to additional information.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Notwithstanding the above, advertisements of any kind are&lt;br /&gt;
specifically disallowed, except for brief announcements of products&lt;br /&gt;
and events specifically for xHarbour programmers. This specifically&lt;br /&gt;
excludes:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
        a. General-purpose programming tools.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
        b. Announcements of over 50 lines of text.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
        c. Advertisements listing specific prices and ordering&lt;br /&gt;
           information.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
        d. Products and events which are not substantially specific&lt;br /&gt;
           to the needs of xHarbour developers.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
        e. Any product or event that has been announced on&lt;br /&gt;
           comp.lang.xharbour within the past 30 days.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Item (d) is intended to mitigate against announcements of general&lt;br /&gt;
purpose programming tools or events, which really belong somewhere&lt;br /&gt;
like:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
   comp.lang.misc&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There is nothing wrong with posts like this but this charter is&lt;br /&gt;
specifically attempting to establish strict definition of what&amp;#039;s&lt;br /&gt;
considered on-topic for comp.lang.xharbour. The clear intent and&lt;br /&gt;
general requirement for all posts is to have directly xHarbour&lt;br /&gt;
related content.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Posters are expected to abide by normal Usenet standards of decorum,&lt;br /&gt;
and to ignore articles intended to disrupt the group.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
DISTRIBUTION:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This document has been posted to the following newsgroups:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  news.announce.newgroups&lt;br /&gt;
  news.groups.proposals&lt;br /&gt;
  comp.lang.clipper&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The proponent will also post pointers to:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  news://news.xharbour.org/xHarbour&lt;br /&gt;
  http://www.xharbour.org&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
PROPONENT:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Patrick Mast, xHarbour&amp;quot; &amp;lt;patrick.xHarbour@gmail.com&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Co-Proponent: Ron Pinkas &amp;lt;Ron@RonPinkas.com&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
CHANGE HISTORY:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2006-12-18     1st RFD&lt;br /&gt;
2006-01-26     2nd RFD/LCC&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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