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		<title>Moleski: Created page with &#039;&lt;pre&gt; From: Nigel Sixsmith &lt;n6smith@gmail.com&gt; Subject: RFD: news.services.moderated moderated Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups, news.groups.proposals,  alt.binaries.news-serv…&#039;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;#039;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt; From: Nigel Sixsmith &amp;lt;n6smith@gmail.com&amp;gt; Subject: RFD: news.services.moderated moderated Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups, news.groups.proposals,  alt.binaries.news-serv…&amp;#039;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
From: Nigel Sixsmith &amp;lt;n6smith@gmail.com&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: RFD: news.services.moderated moderated&lt;br /&gt;
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups, news.groups.proposals,&lt;br /&gt;
 alt.binaries.news-server-comparison&lt;br /&gt;
Followup-To: news.groups.proposals&lt;br /&gt;
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 11:51:50 -0600&lt;br /&gt;
Organization: http://www.big-8.org/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
                      REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)&lt;br /&gt;
                moderated group news.services.moderated&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of the&lt;br /&gt;
moderated Usenet newsgroup, news.services.moderated.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
NEWSGROUPS LINE: news.services.moderated&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
news.services.moderated	News service providers - servers and services. (Moderated)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
RATIONALE: news.services.moderated&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The current name space for the un-moderated discussion of news servers and&lt;br /&gt;
news services is carried in the alt.binaries hierarchy (alt.binaries.&lt;br /&gt;
news-server-comparison).  This is not the correct placement for such a&lt;br /&gt;
newsgroup as not all news servers carry alt.binaries.  Proper name space&lt;br /&gt;
and placement will allow a wider Usenet audience to be addressed.  Many&lt;br /&gt;
news servers provided a limited or much reduced retention period for&lt;br /&gt;
groups in the alt hierarchy compared to those in the Big 8 groups.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The current group is not moderated. The new group being moderated would&lt;br /&gt;
ensure a &amp;#039;noise&amp;#039; free&amp;#039; group where the topic of news service can be&lt;br /&gt;
discussed freely and without disruption from flame wars and excessive&lt;br /&gt;
off-topic cross posting from other, unrelated groups.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
CHARTER:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
news.services.moderated will consist of discussion of all aspects of&lt;br /&gt;
news services and news servers provided by both commercial and non&lt;br /&gt;
commercial news providers.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Acceptable on topic discussion would include as examples;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  a) Types of services available.&lt;br /&gt;
  b) Comparisons of costs of Services and different service plans&lt;br /&gt;
     provided by commercial NSPs.&lt;br /&gt;
  c) Comparisons between completion / retention /reliability of&lt;br /&gt;
     different commercial/non commercial NSPs.&lt;br /&gt;
  d) Announcements of new or updates services by commercial/non&lt;br /&gt;
     commercial NSPs.&lt;br /&gt;
  e) Types of issues or problems specific commercial/non commercial&lt;br /&gt;
     NSPs may be having.&lt;br /&gt;
  f) Technical aspects of news services being provided by commercial/non&lt;br /&gt;
     commercial NSPs.&lt;br /&gt;
  g) Help and advice for those new to Usenet and the kind of services&lt;br /&gt;
     provided by commercial/non commercial NSPs.&lt;br /&gt;
  h) Suggestions as to how current types and levels of services provided&lt;br /&gt;
     by commercial/non commercial NSPs, could be improved upon.&lt;br /&gt;
  i) Current status of news servers, transit servers, network issues,&lt;br /&gt;
     outages, maintenance and all other network related matters to the&lt;br /&gt;
     storage and propagation of news  in relation to NSP&amp;#039;s and the services&lt;br /&gt;
     they provide would be deemed on-topic.&lt;br /&gt;
  j) Information on and discussion of different types of News Clients&lt;br /&gt;
     and announcements of new or updated News Clients which can take&lt;br /&gt;
     advantage of the different/new/old services offered by commercial/non&lt;br /&gt;
     commercial NSPs.&lt;br /&gt;
  k) Friendly banter and off topic posts would be considered by the&lt;br /&gt;
     moderators and appraised for acceptance based on content and not on&lt;br /&gt;
     who posted the article in question with the intention of making the&lt;br /&gt;
     new group a welcoming and friendly place for both long terms users of&lt;br /&gt;
     Usenet as well as those new to Usenet.. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
MODERATION POLICY: news.services.moderated&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Moderation to initially be done via robo-moderation with the possibility&lt;br /&gt;
of human moderation if robo-moderation proves inadequate at keeping the&lt;br /&gt;
group free from the majority of &amp;#039;noise&amp;#039; that proved so disruptive in the&lt;br /&gt;
original alt.binaries.news-servers-comparison group.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It may be that a combination of both robot and human moderation is needed&lt;br /&gt;
to ensure the inclusion of &amp;#039;friendly banter&amp;#039; without such posts cluttering&lt;br /&gt;
up the group. This should to be discussed and considered in depth and if&lt;br /&gt;
needed, human moderators will need to be found to fulfil this stipulation&lt;br /&gt;
if such is agreed upon. Likewise, robo-moderation will need to be fully&lt;br /&gt;
discussed and methods decided upon if that method of moderation is agreed&lt;br /&gt;
to be needed in this group too.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
MODERATOR INFO: news.services.moderated&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Moderator:                 &amp;lt;no@address.invalid&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Moderators are currently being sought.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Article Submissions:      &lt;br /&gt;
Administrative Contact:   &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
PROCEDURE:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For more information on the newsgroup creation process, please see:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:creation&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Those who wish to influence the development of this RFD and its final&lt;br /&gt;
resolution should subscribe to news.groups.proposals and participate in the&lt;br /&gt;
relevant threads in that newsgroup.  This is both a courtesy to groups in&lt;br /&gt;
which discussion of creating a new group is off-topic as well as the best&lt;br /&gt;
method of making sure that one&amp;#039;s comments or criticisms are heard.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
All discussion of active proposals should be posted to news.groups.proposals.&lt;br /&gt;
To this end, the &amp;#039;Followup-To&amp;#039; header of this RFD has been set to this group.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If desired by the readership of closely affected groups, the discussion&lt;br /&gt;
may be crossposted to those groups, but care must be taken to ensure&lt;br /&gt;
that all discussion appears in news.groups.proposals as well.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We urge those who would like to read or post in the proposed newsgroup&lt;br /&gt;
to make a comment to that effect in this thread; we ask proponents to&lt;br /&gt;
keep a list of such positive posts with the relevant message ID&lt;br /&gt;
(e.g., Barney Fife, &amp;lt;4JGdnb60fsMzHA7ZnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@sysmatrix.net&amp;gt;).&lt;br /&gt;
Such lists of positive feedback for the proposal may constitute good&lt;br /&gt;
evidence that the group will be well-used if it is created.&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
DISTRIBUTION:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This document has been posted to the following newsgroups:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  news.announce.newgroups&lt;br /&gt;
  news.groups.proposals&lt;br /&gt;
  alt.binaries.news-server-comparison&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
PROPONENT:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Nigel Sixsmith &amp;lt;n6smith@gmail.com&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
CHANGE HISTORY:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2006-01-17     1st RFD (Draft)&lt;br /&gt;
2006-01-19     1st RFD&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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