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		<title>Moleski: Created page with &#039;&lt;pre&gt; From: John Corliss &lt;rtd3ws at yahoo dot com&gt; Subject: 2nd RFD: rec.motorcycles.victory Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, rec.motorcycles,  rec.motorcycles.h…&#039;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;#039;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt; From: John Corliss &amp;lt;rtd3ws at yahoo dot com&amp;gt; Subject: 2nd RFD: rec.motorcycles.victory Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, rec.motorcycles,  rec.motorcycles.h…&amp;#039;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
From: John Corliss &amp;lt;rtd3ws at yahoo dot com&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: 2nd RFD: rec.motorcycles.victory&lt;br /&gt;
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, rec.motorcycles,&lt;br /&gt;
 rec.motorcycles.harley, rec.motorcycles.tech&lt;br /&gt;
Followup-To: news.groups&lt;br /&gt;
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2006 14:31:12 -0800&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
                      REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)&lt;br /&gt;
               unmoderated group rec.motorcycles.victory&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of the&lt;br /&gt;
unmoderated Usenet newsgroup, rec.motorcycles.victory.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
NEWSGROUPS LINE: rec.motorcycles.victory&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
rec.motorcycles.victory	Polaris Victory motorcycle rides, tech, resources.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
RATIONALE: rec.motorcycles.victory&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To promote the safe use of Victory motorcycles as well as to better&lt;br /&gt;
develop social connections among Victory riders, it&amp;#039;s vital for owners&lt;br /&gt;
to be able to easily exchange information on a world-wide basis and this&lt;br /&gt;
newsgroup will fill that need.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are a several online forums (see below) available for discussing&lt;br /&gt;
Victory motorcycles but many of them are more or less regionally&lt;br /&gt;
limited, require registration or membership, and-or are difficult to find.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Usenet motorcycle newsgroups are generally for the discussion of other&lt;br /&gt;
makes of motorcycles and-or the participant communicates in non-English&lt;br /&gt;
languages. The rec.motorcycles group is an exception but is too&lt;br /&gt;
generalized and far too active (currently well over 100,000 posts have&lt;br /&gt;
been made in that group and the rate is well over 200 posts a day.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Although rec.motorcycles might work for an occasional question, getting&lt;br /&gt;
a useful answer to a question from another Victory owner is much less&lt;br /&gt;
likely due to the vast readership.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Ownership and interest in Victory motorcyles has grown to the point&lt;br /&gt;
where there will be adequate interest to support a make-specific&lt;br /&gt;
newsgroup. This would be similar to the way rec.motorcyles.harley serves&lt;br /&gt;
the community of those interested in Harley Davidson motorcyles.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Based on the topic alone, there would be no (or at least very little)&lt;br /&gt;
overlap with other motorcycle groups and rec.motorcycles.victory would&lt;br /&gt;
be easy to locate for Victory owners who are usenet savvy.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
LINK TO STRAW POLL:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  http://groups.google.com/group/news.groups/msg/5e956acbff8897aa?hl=en&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
TRAFFIC ANALYSIS:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are a several active online forums available for discussing&lt;br /&gt;
Victory motorcycles:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
   http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/VictoryDigest/&lt;br /&gt;
   http://forums.thevmc.com/megabbs/category-view.asp&lt;br /&gt;
   http://savr.phpbbnow.com/&lt;br /&gt;
   http://victorypowerriders.com/phpBB2/index.php&lt;br /&gt;
   http://www.illinoisvictoryriders.com/forums/&lt;br /&gt;
   http://www.kingpincruisers.net/component/option,com_smf/Itemid,38/&lt;br /&gt;
   http://www.mwmotorcycles.com/forum/index.php?board=54.0&lt;br /&gt;
   http://www.rideavictory.com/forum/&lt;br /&gt;
   http://www.tcvr.us/messages/&lt;br /&gt;
   http://www.thvmc.com/forums/&lt;br /&gt;
   http://www.v-twinforum.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=120&lt;br /&gt;
   http://www.victory-motorcycle.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi&lt;br /&gt;
   http://www.vmclinks.com/x/modules/newbb/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
That these forums exist and are active should demonstrate that there is&lt;br /&gt;
adequate interest in the topic.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
CHARTER:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
rec.motorcycles.victory is for discussion of all aspects of Polaris&lt;br /&gt;
Victory motorcycles, hereafter referred to simply as &amp;quot;Victory&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
motorcycles. Topics include technical discussion, ride reports, product&lt;br /&gt;
and new model reviews and announcements of upcoming rides.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Posters are expected to abide by normal Usenet standards of decorum (for&lt;br /&gt;
example, lurking a while before posting, etc.) and to refrain from&lt;br /&gt;
sending, as well as ignore, articles intended to disrupt the group.&lt;br /&gt;
Bottom posting will be the norm.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Examples of inappropriate posts are the following:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
   * Off topic articles, including:&lt;br /&gt;
      - Commercial advertisements&lt;br /&gt;
      - Personal advertisements not related to Victory motorcycles&lt;br /&gt;
      - General discussions not related to Victory motorcycles&lt;br /&gt;
      - Money-making schemes&lt;br /&gt;
      - Chain letters&lt;br /&gt;
      - EMP AKA &amp;quot;excessive multiple posting&amp;quot; spam&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
   * Articles with unacceptable content, such as:&lt;br /&gt;
      - HTML&lt;br /&gt;
      - Copyright violations&lt;br /&gt;
      - Excessive quoting&lt;br /&gt;
      - Threats and/or advocation of violence&lt;br /&gt;
      - Binaries, except PGP signatures, X-Face headers, and other&lt;br /&gt;
        ancillary meta-data&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
   * Attempts to subvert message filtering or to pretend to be somebody&lt;br /&gt;
     else, such as:&lt;br /&gt;
      - Forgery or imitation of a valid e-mail address&lt;br /&gt;
      - Excessive morphing/nym-shifting AKA &amp;quot;using sock puppets&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The group will be unmoderated and will not be gated to a mailing list.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
PROCEDURE:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For more information on the newsgroup creation process, please see:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:creation&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Those who wish to influence the development of this RFD and its final&lt;br /&gt;
resolution should subscribe to news.groups and participate in the&lt;br /&gt;
relevant threads in that newsgroup.  This is both a courtesy to groups&lt;br /&gt;
in which discussion of creating a new group is off-topic as well as the&lt;br /&gt;
best method of making sure that one&amp;#039;s comments or criticisms are heard.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
All discussion of active proposals should be posted to news.groups.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To this end, the followup header of this RFD has been set to&lt;br /&gt;
news.groups.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If desired by the readership of closely affected groups, the discussion&lt;br /&gt;
may be crossposted to those groups, but care must be taken to ensure&lt;br /&gt;
that all discussion appears in news.groups as well.&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
DISTRIBUTION:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This document has been posted to the following newsgroups:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  news.announce.newgroups&lt;br /&gt;
  news.groups&lt;br /&gt;
  rec.motorcycles&lt;br /&gt;
  rec.motorcycles.harley&lt;br /&gt;
  rec.motorcycles.tech&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The proponent will also post pointers to:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  alt.motorcycles.abate&lt;br /&gt;
  alt.motorcycles.harley&lt;br /&gt;
  uk.rec.motorcycles&lt;br /&gt;
  tx.motorcycles&lt;br /&gt;
  aus.motorcycles&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
PROPONENT:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
John Corliss &amp;lt;rtd3ws at yahoo dot com&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
CHANGE HISTORY:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2006-11-07     2nd RFD&lt;br /&gt;
2006-10-30     1st RFD&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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