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<p>Created page with &#039;&lt;pre&gt; From: Jim Riley &lt;jimrtex@pipeline.com&gt; Subject: RFD: remove comp.lang.basic.visual.announce moderated Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, comp.lang.basic.vis…&#039;</p> <p><b>New page</b></p><div>&lt;pre&gt;<br /> From: Jim Riley &lt;jimrtex@pipeline.com&gt;<br /> Subject: RFD: remove comp.lang.basic.visual.announce moderated<br /> Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups, news.groups,<br /> comp.lang.basic.visual.announce, comp.lang.basic.visual.misc,<br /> comp.lang.basic.misc<br /> Followup-To: news.groups<br /> Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2006 14:02:04 -0800<br /> <br /> REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)<br /> remove comp.lang.basic.visual.announce<br /> <br /> This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) to remove the moderated<br /> newsgroup comp.lang.basic.visual.announce.<br /> <br /> <br /> RATIONALE: remove comp.lang.basic.visual.announce<br /> <br /> There have been no messages approved by the moderator of the newsgroup<br /> since May 1997.<br /> <br /> In 1998, during discussion of an RFD to add (.16bit, .32bit, and<br /> .internet) groups to the comp.lang.basic.visual.* hierarchy, there was<br /> a suggestion made that either the .announce group should be removed or<br /> a new moderator found. The RFD for the additional groups was<br /> abandoned and no action with respect to the .announce group.<br /> <br /> Most mentions of comp.lang.basic.visual.announce since 1997 have been<br /> either simply including it in a list of Visual Basic groups; or as<br /> part of a complaint about posting an announcement to<br /> comp.lang.visual.basic.misc (even though no announcements had been<br /> approved to the .announce group in several years).<br /> <br /> There are at least 63 newsgroups related to Visual Basic in the<br /> microsoft.* hierarchy. With this level of support by the vendor,<br /> there may simply be little need for a Big 8 announcement group.<br /> <br /> Over the past 12 months, there have been more announcements posted to<br /> the non-Visual-Basic comp.lang.basic.* groups (.misc, .powerbasic, and<br /> .realbasic) than to the comp.lang.basic.visual.* groups. If there is<br /> a revival of the group, consideration should be made of renaming the<br /> group as comp.lang.basic.announce.<br /> <br /> <br /> HISTORY: <br /> <br /> The newsgroup comp.lang.basic.visual was created in January 1994. The<br /> newsgroup comp.lang.basic.misc was created at the same time (there was<br /> never a comp.lang.basic newsgroup).<br /> <br /> In October 1994, comp.lang.basic.visual was split into 3 unmoderated<br /> newsgroups (.3rdparty, .database, and .misc) and the moderated<br /> newsgroup comp.lang.basic.visual.announce).<br /> <br /> There were approvals in comp.lang.visual.announce from October 1994<br /> until January 1997. There have been rare cross-posted articles<br /> approved by moderators of other groups since then.<br /> <br /> The non-Visual-Basic groups, comp.lang.basic.powerbasic and<br /> comp.lang.basic.realbasic were created in August 1998 and December<br /> 1998, respectively.<br /> <br /> <br /> PROCEDURE: <br /> <br /> The full group removal procedure is documented here:<br /> <br /> http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:rmgroup<br /> <br /> Those who wish to comment on this request to remove this newsgroup should<br /> subscribe to news.groups and participate in the relevant threads in that<br /> newsgroup.<br /> <br /> To this end, the followup header of this RFD has been set to news.groups.<br /> <br /> All discussion of active proposals should be posted to news.groups.<br /> <br /> If desired by the readership of closely affected groups, the discussion<br /> may be crossposted to those groups, but care must be taken to ensure that<br /> all discussion appears in news.groups as well.<br /> <br /> <br /> DISTRIBUTION:<br /> <br /> This document has been posted to the following newsgroups:<br /> <br /> news.announce.newgroups<br /> news.groups<br /> comp.lang.basic.visual.announce<br /> comp.lang.basic.visual.misc<br /> comp.lang.basic.misc<br /> <br /> The proponent will also post pointers to:<br /> <br /> comp.lang.basic.powerbasic<br /> comp.lang.basic.realbasic<br /> comp.lang.basic.visual.3rdparty<br /> comp.lang.basic.visual.database<br /> <br /> <br /> PROPONENT: <br /> <br /> Jim Riley &lt;jimrtex@pipeline.com&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> CHANGE HISTORY: <br /> <br /> 2006-11-08 1st RFD<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;</div>

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