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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;#039;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt; From: Jeffrey M. Vinocur &amp;lt;jeff@litech.org&amp;gt; Subject: RFD: comp.lang.haskell Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, comp.lang.functional,  alt.comp.lang.haskell Fo…&amp;#039;&lt;/p&gt;
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From: Jeffrey M. Vinocur &amp;lt;jeff@litech.org&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: RFD: comp.lang.haskell&lt;br /&gt;
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, comp.lang.functional,&lt;br /&gt;
 alt.comp.lang.haskell&lt;br /&gt;
Followup-To: news.groups&lt;br /&gt;
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:33:00 -0700&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
                      REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)&lt;br /&gt;
                  unmoderated group comp.lang.haskell&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of the&lt;br /&gt;
unmoderated Usenet newsgroup, comp.lang.haskell.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
NEWSGROUPS LINE: comp.lang.haskell&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
comp.lang.haskell	Haskell concepts, implementation, and use.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
RATIONALE: comp.lang.haskell&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Discussion of Haskell is currently fragmented through Usenet.  It is the&lt;br /&gt;
only major functional programming language without a dedicated Big 8&lt;br /&gt;
group, and thus has become the topic of a substantial portion of the&lt;br /&gt;
traffic in comp.lang.functional.  The main purposes of this group,&lt;br /&gt;
therefore, are to separate out this traffic into a dedicated group, and&lt;br /&gt;
to make it easier for new users to locate Haskell-related discussion.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This group has been the subject of periodic discussion for several&lt;br /&gt;
years, most notably in 2001 when a straw poll showed general support but&lt;br /&gt;
not enough interest, numerically, to warrant proposal under the old Big&lt;br /&gt;
8 group creation system (see &amp;lt;9j6ufp$fil$3@marduk.litech.org&amp;gt; and the&lt;br /&gt;
accompanying thread for details).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
TRAFFIC ANALYSIS:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This analysis is limited by the Google Groups interface.  However, in&lt;br /&gt;
the past year, at least 280 distinct threads (a fifth of the total&lt;br /&gt;
number of threads for that time) in comp.lang.functional include&lt;br /&gt;
discussion of Haskell.  The number of posts per thread is unknown, as is&lt;br /&gt;
the number of relevant posts that do not contain the word &amp;quot;haskell&amp;quot; (a&lt;br /&gt;
not infrequent occurrence, as the distinct syntax is enough to make&lt;br /&gt;
Haskell code easily recognizable without specific identification).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There is additionally some traffic scattered through other parts&lt;br /&gt;
of the comp.lang.* hierarchy as well as in alt.comp.lang.haskell.&lt;br /&gt;
It is unknown what fraction of the active mailing list community&lt;br /&gt;
responsible for generating the traffic in fa.haskell would be&lt;br /&gt;
interested in using a Big 8 newsgroups instead or in addition.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
CHARTER:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The comp.lang.haskell unmoderated newsgroup is for the discussion of the&lt;br /&gt;
programming language Haskell, including but not limited to:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    * conceptual and mathematical foundations&lt;br /&gt;
    * interpreter and compiler development&lt;br /&gt;
    * libraries&lt;br /&gt;
    * learning Haskell&lt;br /&gt;
    * programming in Haskell&lt;br /&gt;
    * implementation-specific issues&lt;br /&gt;
    * comparison to other programming languages (within reason)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Cryptographic signatures and small source code snippets are permitted,&lt;br /&gt;
but spam and other binary posts are prohibited.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Students seeking help on school work should be handled on a case-by-case&lt;br /&gt;
basis.  In general, thoughtful questions by students showing a true&lt;br /&gt;
desire to learn may be appropriate for discussion, but blatant attempts&lt;br /&gt;
to have newsgroup participants complete assignments are likely to be&lt;br /&gt;
ignored at best, and possibly reported to the relevant institution.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
PROCEDURE:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For more information on the newsgroup creation process, please see:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:creation&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Those who wish to influence the development of this RFD and its final&lt;br /&gt;
resolution should subscribe to news.groups and participate in the&lt;br /&gt;
relevant threads in that newsgroup.  This is both a courtesy to groups&lt;br /&gt;
in which discussion of creating a new group is off-topic as well as the&lt;br /&gt;
best method of making sure that one&amp;#039;s comments or criticisms are heard.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
All discussion of active proposals should be posted to news.groups.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To this end, the followup header of this RFD has been set to&lt;br /&gt;
news.groups.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If desired by the readership of closely affected groups, the discussion&lt;br /&gt;
may be crossposted to those groups, but care must be taken to ensure&lt;br /&gt;
that all discussion appears in news.groups as well.&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
If you would like to read or post in the proposed newsgroup, please make&lt;br /&gt;
a comment to that effect in this thread; the proponent will keep a list&lt;br /&gt;
of such positive posts with the relevant message ID (e.g., Barney Fife,&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;4JGdnb60fsMzHA7ZnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@sysmatrix.net&amp;gt;).  This positive&lt;br /&gt;
feedback for the proposal may constitute good evidence that the group&lt;br /&gt;
will be well-used if it is created.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
DISTRIBUTION:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This document has been posted to the following newsgroups:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  news.announce.newgroups&lt;br /&gt;
  news.groups&lt;br /&gt;
  comp.lang.functional&lt;br /&gt;
  alt.comp.lang.haskell&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The proponent will also post pointers to:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Mailing_lists&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
PROPONENT:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Jeffrey M. Vinocur &amp;lt;jeff@litech.org&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
CHANGE HISTORY:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2006-10-16     1st RFD&lt;br /&gt;
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