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		<title>Moleski: Created page with &#039;&lt;pre&gt; From: skirv@big-8.org (Tim Skirvin) Subject: [B8MB] State of Affairs Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups, news.groups Followup-To: news.groups Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 08:18:…&#039;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;#039;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt; From: skirv@big-8.org (Tim Skirvin) Subject: [B8MB] State of Affairs Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups, news.groups Followup-To: news.groups Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 08:18:…&amp;#039;&lt;/p&gt;
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From: skirv@big-8.org (Tim Skirvin)&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: [B8MB] State of Affairs&lt;br /&gt;
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups, news.groups&lt;br /&gt;
Followup-To: news.groups&lt;br /&gt;
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 08:18:10 -0700&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
        It&amp;#039;s been too long since my last report on the current state of&lt;br /&gt;
affairs with the Big-8 Management Board.  In short: besides what&amp;#039;s already&lt;br /&gt;
been posted here, there&amp;#039;s not much to report.  This is primarily because&lt;br /&gt;
of the season - several Board members have been on vacation, and others&lt;br /&gt;
have been swamped with offline work.  We seem to be getting back into the&lt;br /&gt;
swing of things now.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Recent Actions&lt;br /&gt;
--------------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  The main thing that the Board has accomplished in the last couple of&lt;br /&gt;
  months has been to simply run through and refine the creation and&lt;br /&gt;
  removal process, and to refine it to other, similar proposals.  The&lt;br /&gt;
  actions that we&amp;#039;ve taken since our last report:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
        - Found a moderator for sci.physics.plasma&lt;br /&gt;
        - Found a robot moderator for soc.religion.hindu (forthcoming)&lt;br /&gt;
        - Created soc.support.vision-impaired&lt;br /&gt;
        - Removed the first two rounds of INET groups&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Call For Proposals&lt;br /&gt;
------------------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  Long-time readers of news.groups may note that none of the above&lt;br /&gt;
  proposals would likely have passed under the RFD/CFV system.  This is&lt;br /&gt;
  intentional - the Board has worked to bring a working removal process&lt;br /&gt;
  together hand-in-hand with more liberal creation requirements.  We would&lt;br /&gt;
  like to create more groups, and are willing to experiment to do so.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  As such - if you have any proposals that you think would be interesting &lt;br /&gt;
  additions to the Big-8, we strongly encourage you to officially propose&lt;br /&gt;
  your idea with an RFD.  Be creative!  As our mandate says, we want well-&lt;br /&gt;
  named, well-used newsgroups; and if we believe that a proponent is&lt;br /&gt;
  willing and able to put out the effort to adequately promote a group, &lt;br /&gt;
  we are willing to consider even marginal proposals.  This doesn&amp;#039;t&lt;br /&gt;
  guarantee that we&amp;#039;ll create just *anything*, but, well, give us a shot.&lt;br /&gt;
  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Call For Members&lt;br /&gt;
----------------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  While nothing is official yet, the Board may be seeking new membership&lt;br /&gt;
  in the fairly-near future.  Interested parties should contact the Board&lt;br /&gt;
  directly, at board@big-8.org.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
ftp.isc.org PGP verification problems fixed&lt;br /&gt;
-------------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  In news.admin.hierarchies on 29 July, Russ Allbery noted that some&lt;br /&gt;
  technical problems have been found with PGP-signed control messages from&lt;br /&gt;
  isc.org (including all Big-8 control messages).  From his message:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    For the past few months, PGP verification of control message&lt;br /&gt;
    signatures generated by fairly recent versions of GnuPG has been&lt;br /&gt;
    failing.  The problem stemmed from the use of attached signatures as&lt;br /&gt;
    the verification method in the code that maintained the archive.  When&lt;br /&gt;
    GnuPG uses a SHA-1 hash, attached signature verification fails unless&lt;br /&gt;
    the body of the message starts with a Hash: header, but the pgpcontrol&lt;br /&gt;
    protocol doesn&amp;#039;t provide hash information so the software didn&amp;#039;t know&lt;br /&gt;
    when it needed to add that header.&lt;br /&gt;
                   - Russ Allbery, &amp;lt;87r703ep5a.fsf@windlord.stanford.edu&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  He goes on to say that the problem has been fixed.  Hopefully this will&lt;br /&gt;
  help some sites out in properly handling Big-8 control messages.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Volunteer Committees&lt;br /&gt;
--------------------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  As a reminder - the B8MB is attempting to put together several volunteer&lt;br /&gt;
  organizations to handle individual aspects of the new group creation&lt;br /&gt;
  system.  These groups are not currently fully populated, but they have&lt;br /&gt;
  fairly clear (if general) goals.  And most importantly, they have&lt;br /&gt;
  mailing lists, so it&amp;#039;s possible to start getting them organized.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  If you would like to volunteer for any of these organizations, please&lt;br /&gt;
  subscribe to the relevant mailing lists.  We are not restricting&lt;br /&gt;
  membership at this point.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  Usenet Volunteer Pollsters&lt;br /&gt;
  ==========================&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  Coordinator    Tim Skirvin&lt;br /&gt;
  Mailing List   http://lists.big-8.org/mailman/listinfo/uvp/&lt;br /&gt;
  Description    http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=workgroups:polltakers&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  Usenet Volunteer Moderators&lt;br /&gt;
  ===========================&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  Coordinator    Jonathan Kamens&lt;br /&gt;
  Mailing List   http://lists.big-8.org/mailman/listinfo/uvm/&lt;br /&gt;
  Description    http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=workgroups:moderators&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  Group Mentors&lt;br /&gt;
  =============&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  Coordinator    Tim Skirvin&lt;br /&gt;
  Mailing List   http://lists.big-8.org/mailman/listinfo/group-mentors/&lt;br /&gt;
  Description    http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=workgroups:mentors&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  Deadwood Groups Task Force&lt;br /&gt;
  ==========================&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  Coordinator    Dave Sill&lt;br /&gt;
  Mailing List   http://lists.big-8.org/mailman/listinfo/deadwood/&lt;br /&gt;
  Description    http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=workgroups:deadgroups&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
		                    - Tim Skirvin (skirv@big-8.org)&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Chair, Big-8 Management Board&lt;br /&gt;
-- &lt;br /&gt;
http://www.big-8.org/                           Big-8 Management Board&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.killfile.org/~tskirvin/        Skirv&amp;#039;s Homepage &amp;lt;FISH&amp;gt;&amp;lt; &amp;lt;*&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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