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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;#039;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt; From: board@big-8.org (The Big-8 Management Board) Subject: 3rd RFD: remove comp.lang.lisp.franz (LAST CALL FOR COMMENTS) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, …&amp;#039;&lt;/p&gt;
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From: board@big-8.org (The Big-8 Management Board)&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: 3rd RFD: remove comp.lang.lisp.franz (LAST CALL FOR COMMENTS)&lt;br /&gt;
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, comp.lang.lisp.franz,&lt;br /&gt;
 comp.lang.lisp&lt;br /&gt;
Followup-To: news.groups&lt;br /&gt;
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 13:13:45 -0700&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
                      REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)&lt;br /&gt;
                      remove comp.lang.lisp.franz&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) to remove the unmoderated&lt;br /&gt;
newsgroup comp.lang.lisp.franz.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
PROCEDURE:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The B8MB plans to begin voting on this proposal after five days.  Please&lt;br /&gt;
offer any final discussion or comments before the end of this waiting&lt;br /&gt;
period.  Voting may take up to one week (7 days); a result will be posted&lt;br /&gt;
following the end of the voting period.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The full (draft) group removal procedure is documented here:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:rmgroup&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
SUMMARY OF DISCUSSION:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The only comment made was that any discussion in comp.lang.lisp.franz&lt;br /&gt;
was likely about Allegro CL, a Common Lisp implementation from Franz;&lt;br /&gt;
rather than about Franz Lisp (also from Franz).  A quick Google searched&lt;br /&gt;
show almost all discussion about Allegro occurred in comp.lang.lisp.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Allegro CL discussion is off-topic in comp.lang.lisp.franz, but on&lt;br /&gt;
topic in comp.lang.lisp, where almost all of it occurs.  Discussion of&lt;br /&gt;
Franz Lisp is virtually non-existent, but on-topic in both groups.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
RATIONALE: remove comp.lang.lisp.franz&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
comp.lang.lisp.franz has had 5 apparently on-topic messages in the past&lt;br /&gt;
11 months.  Only one received a response.  Any Franz-specific discussion&lt;br /&gt;
can be conducted in comp.lang.lisp.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This RFD is part of a proposal to remove 31 low-traffic former-INET&lt;br /&gt;
groups.  Please see article &amp;lt;1152814343.19576@isc.org&amp;gt;, available here:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
    http://news.killfile.org/?group=news.announce.newgroups&amp;amp;number=1363&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Note: the proposal to remove two of the 31 groups, comp.os.rsts and&lt;br /&gt;
comp.std.announce, has been withdrawn.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
HISTORY: &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
comp.lang.lisp.franz has existed as an INET group since at least 1987.  It was&lt;br /&gt;
promoted to the standard Big 8 distribution in October 2000.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
DISTRIBUTION:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This document has been posted to the following newsgroups:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  news.announce.newgroups&lt;br /&gt;
  news.groups&lt;br /&gt;
  comp.lang.lisp.franz&lt;br /&gt;
  comp.lang.lisp&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
PROPONENT: &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Jim Riley &amp;lt;jimrtex@pipeline.com&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
CHANGE HISTORY: &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2006-08-08     3rd RFD (Last call for Comments)&lt;br /&gt;
2006-07-13     2nd (&amp;quot;comprehensive&amp;quot;) RFD&lt;br /&gt;
2006-07-06     1st RFD&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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