Moderated Newsgroups - Revision history

Tristan Miller: retitle

2024-10-11T22:41:39Z

retitle

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	If a moderator abandons or relinquishes control of a group without appointing a successor, or if the original moderation scheme seems to be otherwise broken, then interested parties may initiate a [[Moderator Vacancy Investigation]].		If a moderator abandons or relinquishes control of a group without appointing a successor, or if the original moderation scheme seems to be otherwise broken, then interested parties may initiate a [[Moderator Vacancy Investigation]].

	== What skills and qualities do ~~prospective~~ moderators need? ==		== What skills and qualities do moderators need? ==

	Moderating a newsgroup requires sufficient technical skill to get the moderation software up and running and to maintain it. Moderation can be done by a single individual, or by a team of moderators, depending on the software chosen. Moderation software can be set up to require hand-approval for each post, to be entirely controlled by the robot, or somewhere in between.		Moderating a newsgroup requires sufficient technical skill to get the moderation software up and running and to maintain it. Moderation can be done by a single individual, or by a team of moderators, depending on the software chosen. Moderation software can be set up to require hand-approval for each post, to be entirely controlled by the robot, or somewhere in between.

Tristan Miller: What skills and qualities do prospective moderators need? (migrated from Moderator Vacancy Investigations)

2024-10-11T22:35:46Z

What skills and qualities do prospective moderators need? (migrated from Moderator Vacancy Investigations)

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	If a moderator abandons or relinquishes control of a group without appointing a successor, or if the original moderation scheme seems to be otherwise broken, then interested parties may initiate a [[Moderator Vacancy Investigation]].		If a moderator abandons or relinquishes control of a group without appointing a successor, or if the original moderation scheme seems to be otherwise broken, then interested parties may initiate a [[Moderator Vacancy Investigation]].

			== What skills and qualities do prospective moderators need? ==

			Moderating a newsgroup requires sufficient technical skill to get the moderation software up and running and to maintain it. Moderation can be done by a single individual, or by a team of moderators, depending on the software chosen. Moderation software can be set up to require hand-approval for each post, to be entirely controlled by the robot, or somewhere in between.

			Non-technically, moderators are expected to be impartial and fair; they effectively own the group in question, and with that comes some level of responsibility. Within those bounds, the rules are pretty flexible; as long as moderators maintain a user-base, they're probably doing fine. Perhaps the most important requirement, early on, will be to do some active recruiting for the group, and to write up appropriate documents to explain how things are set up and why.

			Essential questions that a new moderator or group of moderators have to answer:

			* Who is going to participate? It doesn't have to be all of you, and it doesn't have to ''just'' be you.
			* What kind of moderation software should be used?
			* Who is going to actually run the software?
			* Should the moderation policies be revised?

	== How does a moderator change the submission address? ==		== How does a moderator change the submission address? ==

Tristan Miller: merge similar questions

2024-10-11T22:31:34Z

merge similar questions

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	Although the moderator(s) is/are normally listed as part of the [[RFD]], once the newsgroup is created there is no specific procedure for adding/removing/changing moderators. It's nice to have that procedure spelled out in the [[RFD]], but not mandatory. In essence, once the group is created, whoever has control of the submission email address has control of the group.		Although the moderator(s) is/are normally listed as part of the [[RFD]], once the newsgroup is created there is no specific procedure for adding/removing/changing moderators. It's nice to have that procedure spelled out in the [[RFD]], but not mandatory. In essence, once the group is created, whoever has control of the submission email address has control of the group.

	== How does a group change moderators? ==		== How does a group change moderators and who appoints them? ==

	Ideally, the old moderator or team hands off control of the group to the new moderator(s) by sending an e-mail to [mailto:moderators-request@isc.org moderators-request@isc.org]. Up-to-date contact addresses for the moderator(s) should be supplied in that e-mail at the same time that the request is made.		Ideally, the old moderator or team hands off control of the group to the new moderator(s) by sending an e-mail to [mailto:moderators-request@isc.org moderators-request@isc.org]. Up-to-date contact addresses for the moderator(s) should be supplied in that e-mail at the same time that the request is made.
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	As a courtesy but as not a requirement, the outgoing moderator might inform the [mailto:board@big-8.org Big-8 Management Board] about the change in moderators. It is the ISC, not the Board, that maintains the official list of submission addresses used by the moderation system.		As a courtesy but as not a requirement, the outgoing moderator might inform the [mailto:board@big-8.org Big-8 Management Board] about the change in moderators. It is the ISC, not the Board, that maintains the official list of submission addresses used by the moderation system.

	If the original moderation scheme seems to be broken, interested parties may initiate a [[~~MVI\|~~Moderator Vacancy Investigation]].		If a moderator abandons or relinquishes control of a group without appointing a successor, or if the original moderation scheme seems to be otherwise broken, then interested parties may initiate a [[Moderator Vacancy Investigation]].

	== How does a moderator change the submission address? ==		== How does a moderator change the submission address? ==
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	== Who can force the moderators to obey the group charter? ==		== Who can force the moderators to obey the group charter? ==
	* Nobody.		* Nobody.

	~~== Who appoints new moderator(s)? ==~~

	~~Moderators who wish to step down are expected to appoint new ones.~~

	~~If a moderator abandons or relinquishes control of a group without appointing a successor, then interested parties may initiate a [[Moderator Vacancy Investigation]].~~

	== How can we get rid of our moderators? ==		== How can we get rid of our moderators? ==

Tristan Miller: /* Who appoints new moderator(s)? */ If a moderator abandons or relinquishes control of a group without appointing a successor, then interested parties may initiate a Moderator Vacancy Investigation.

2024-10-11T22:29:11Z

Who appoints new moderator(s)?: If a moderator abandons or relinquishes control of a group without appointing a successor, then interested parties may initiate a Moderator Vacancy Investigation.

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	== Who appoints new moderator(s)? ==		== Who appoints new moderator(s)? ==
	* The old moderator~~(s)~~.
			Moderators who wish to step down are expected to appoint new ones.

			If a moderator abandons or relinquishes control of a group without appointing a successor, then interested parties may initiate a [[Moderator Vacancy Investigation]].

	== How can we get rid of our moderators? ==		== How can we get rid of our moderators? ==

Tristan Miller: capitalization

2024-10-11T22:22:41Z

capitalization

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	* The ISC has an autoresponder that will return the post to the sender with a note explaining that the group is no longer moderated.		* The ISC has an autoresponder that will return the post to the sender with a note explaining that the group is no longer moderated.

	== How can I run ~~unix~~ moderation software in Windows? ==		== How can I run Unix moderation software in Windows? ==
	* Try [http://www.cygwin.com/ Cygwin].		* Try [http://www.cygwin.com/ Cygwin].

Rayner Lucas: /* How does moderation work? */ Fixed link

2023-09-20T11:46:25Z

How does moderation work?: Fixed link

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	4. The relay looks up moderator contact addresses and sends the message (via SMTP) to email address of the moderator(s).		4. The relay looks up moderator contact addresses and sends the message (via SMTP) to email address of the moderator(s).

	5. The moderator then process the post using various techniques. Many pass the post to [[#Moderation ~~Sofwater~~\|moderation software]] that does an initial evaluation of the post.		5. The moderator then process the post using various techniques. Many pass the post to [[#Moderation Software\|moderation software]] that does an initial evaluation of the post.

	6. If the post is approved, a special [[Usenet headers\|header]] is added to it.		6. If the post is approved, a special [[Usenet headers\|header]] is added to it.

Rayner Lucas: Updated dead links. Substituted current link if available, or archive.org link if no current link is known. Link removed if neither is available.

2023-06-02T15:18:16Z

Updated dead links. Substituted current link if available, or archive.org link if no current link is known. Link removed if neither is available.

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	== What is PGP Moose? ==		== What is PGP Moose? ==
	* It uses Pretty Good Privacy (PGP) to help weed out unauthorized posts in moderated groups. See [http://~~people~~.~~qualcomm~~.~~com~~/~~ggr~~/pgpmoose~~.html~~ this web site.] See also the comp.security.pgp.discuss and alt.security.pgp newsgroups.		* It uses Pretty Good Privacy (PGP) to help weed out unauthorized posts in moderated groups. See [http://wiki.killfile.org/projects/usenet/pgpmoose/ this web site.] See also the comp.security.pgp.discuss and alt.security.pgp newsgroups.

	==See also==		==See also==
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	\|Sven Golly		\|Sven Golly
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	\|[http://www.landfield.com/usenet/moderators/handbook/handbook.html Netnews Moderators Handbook (1995)]		\|[https://web.archive.org/web/20090116020804/http://www.landfield.com/usenet/moderators/handbook/handbook.html Netnews Moderators Handbook (1995)]
	\|Kent Landfield		\|Kent Landfield
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	\|Kent Landfield		\|Kent Landfield
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	\|[http://www.landfield.com/moderators/ Usenet Moderators Archive]		\|[https://web.archive.org/web/20081218172018/http://www.landfield.com/moderators/ Usenet Moderators Archive]
	\|Kent Landfield		\|Kent Landfield
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	\|[http://www.landfield.com/usenet/usenet.html Usenet Related FAQs]		\|[https://web.archive.org/web/20080422205239/http://www.landfield.com/usenet/usenet.html Usenet Related FAQs]
	\|Kent Landfield		\|Kent Landfield
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	\|[http://~~www~~.swcp.com/~dmckeon/mod-faq.html Moderated Newsgroups FAQ]		\|[https://web.archive.org/web/20221211075049/http://pages.swcp.com/~dmckeon/mod-faq.html Moderated Newsgroups FAQ]
	\|Denis McKeon		\|Denis McKeon
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	\|David Ross		\|David Ross
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	\|[http://www.mccune.cc/PGP.htm Tom McCune's page for Pretty Good Privacy]		\|[https://web.archive.org/web/20210126065304/http://www.mccune.cc/PGP.htm Tom McCune's page for Pretty Good Privacy]
	\|Tom McCune		\|Tom McCune
	\|}		\|}
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	\|[http://netwinsite.com/dfree/dmod.htm DMod]		\|[http://netwinsite.com/dfree/dmod.htm DMod]
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	\|[https://~~web.archive.org/web/20100803145545/http://albasani~~.~~net/huhu/overview~~.~~html~~ Huhu]		\|[https://huhu.netnews.tools Huhu]
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	\|[http://www.cis.hut.fi/kaip/marvin/ Marvin]		\|[http://www.cis.hut.fi/kaip/marvin/ Marvin]
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	~~\|[http://www.moderation.org.uk/ modbot by }]~~
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	\|[http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/software/gateway/ News::Gateway]		\|[http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/software/gateway/ News::Gateway]
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	\|[http://www.lugoj.com/products.html PyModerator]		\|[http://www.lugoj.com/products.html PyModerator]
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	\|[http://www.~~robomod~~.~~net~~/ ~~Robomod~~]		\|[http://www.algebra.com/~ichudov/stump/ STUMP]
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			\|[https://web.archive.org/web/20180809213120/http://moderation.org.uk/ modbot (archive link; service no longer available)]
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	\|[http://www.~~algebra~~.~~com/~ichudov/stump~~/ ~~Stump~~]		\|[https://web.archive.org/web/20170509184129/http://www.robomod.net:80/ Robomod (archive link; service no longer available)]
	\|}		\|}

Jason Evans: /* Moderation Software */

2022-05-05T18:00:13Z

Moderation Software

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	\|[http://netwinsite.com/dfree/dmod.htm DMod]		\|[http://netwinsite.com/dfree/dmod.htm DMod]
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	\|[http://albasani.net/huhu/overview.html Huhu]		\|[https://web.archive.org/web/20100803145545/http://albasani.net/huhu/overview.html Huhu]
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	\|[http://www.cis.hut.fi/kaip/marvin/ Marvin]		\|[http://www.cis.hut.fi/kaip/marvin/ Marvin]

Tristan Miller: Remove reference to abolished Usenet Volunteer Moderators

2022-05-02T12:44:50Z

Remove reference to abolished Usenet Volunteer Moderators

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	== Why doesn't anybody fix the holes in the system? ==		== Why doesn't anybody fix the holes in the system? ==
	* That's above my pay grade. Wild guess: the expense (time and effort) of doing so is greater than the benefit?		* That's above my pay grade. Wild guess: the expense (time and effort) of doing so is greater than the benefit?
	* If you have the technical expertise to close the loopholes and want to work to do so, you might want to [[~~:workgroups:~~volunteer\|volunteer]] to ~~join~~ the ~~Usenet Moderators Committee~~.		* If you have the technical expertise to close the loopholes and want to work to do so, you might want to [[How to volunteer or donate\|volunteer]] to help the Board.
	* Some moderators use '''pgpmoose''' to discourage abuse. pgpmoose works at the modbot level; when a post is approved, it is digitally signed (in the [[Usenet headers\|headers]]) to confirm that the post really did come through the modbot. A second 'bot then monitors the group, and verifies the signature of every post that makes it through. If any posts are found that are not approved by the 'bot, then a cancel message is issued. [http://lists.big-8.org/mailman/listinfo/pgpmoose/\|Visit this page] to subscribe to a pgpmoose mailing list.		* Some moderators use '''pgpmoose''' to discourage abuse. pgpmoose works at the modbot level; when a post is approved, it is digitally signed (in the [[Usenet headers\|headers]]) to confirm that the post really did come through the modbot. A second 'bot then monitors the group, and verifies the signature of every post that makes it through. If any posts are found that are not approved by the 'bot, then a cancel message is issued. [http://lists.big-8.org/mailman/listinfo/pgpmoose/\|Visit this page] to subscribe to a pgpmoose mailing list.

	~~== What is the Usenet Volunteer Moderators committee? ==~~
	* It's a [[UVM\|group of Usenet moderators]] who are willing to help other moderators.
	* Want to [mailto:moleski@canisius.edu take over maintenance of this page]?

	== What is 'demoderation'? ==		== What is 'demoderation'? ==

Sbonine: Reverted edits by Sbonine (talk) to last revision by Moleski

2012-05-26T12:18:14Z

Reverted edits by Sbonine (talk) to last revision by Moleski

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	:The board is [[Changing the Moderation Status of Existing Groups\|on record as opposed to changed unmoderated groups to moderated in the Big-8.]] In view of the problems of making such changes (which are technically feasible), the benefits of changing a group's moderation status do not seem to be worth the costs involved.		:The board is [[Changing the Moderation Status of Existing Groups\|on record as opposed to changed unmoderated groups to moderated in the Big-8.]] In view of the problems of making such changes (which are technically feasible), the benefits of changing a group's moderation status do not seem to be worth the costs involved.
	:'''Please note well''': The [[Big-8]], despite its name, is only a small subset of [[Usenet]]. The [[b8mb\|Board]] only makes policy for the [[Big-8]]. [[Other hierarchies]] have their own policies.		:'''Please note well''': The [[Big-8]], despite its name, is only a small subset of [[Usenet]]. The [[b8mb\|Board]] only makes policy for the [[Big-8]]. [[Other hierarchies]] have their own policies.

	~~== How does one change moderators? ==~~

	The usual method of changing moderators is for the current moderator to send a request to moderators-request@isc.org from the current email address of the moderator of record. If the current moderator is not available, the process becomes trickier because the maintainers must be convinced that the proposed change is appropriate.

	== Can trusted posters have their posts appear without moderation? ==		== Can trusted posters have their posts appear without moderation? ==