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		<title>Tristan Miller at 16:18, 27 June 2025</title>
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 16:18, 27 June 2025&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;** JE approved one of RL&amp;#039;s OpenCollective expense claims; RL to remind him about the other one.  JE and RL are in the process of signing and submitting a form to transfer the web hosting account from JE to RL.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;** JE approved one of RL&amp;#039;s OpenCollective expense claims; RL to remind him about the other one.  JE and RL are in the process of signing and submitting a form to transfer the web hosting account from JE to RL.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;** Agreed to cancel the next two meetings due to TM&#039;s unavailability.  Next meeting on 2025-07-18.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Tristan Miller</name></author>
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		<title>Tristan Miller: Created page with &quot;Present: TM, RL, MM  * Administration ** {{news|comp.lang.asm.x86}} *** RL has resumed liaising with Terje regarding setting up a moderation system. ** New signing key for news.groups.proposals *** RL generated a new key, added UIDs for ngp-approval-key@big-8.org and ngp-approval-key@ngp.big-8.org, signed new key with the old key, and published the new key on a key server. Still to do: update our STUMP instance to sign posts with both keys (for the next six months at...&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;Present: TM, RL, MM  * Administration ** {{news|comp.lang.asm.x86}} *** RL has resumed liaising with Terje regarding setting up a moderation system. ** New signing key for &lt;a href=&quot;/wiki/News.groups.proposals&quot; title=&quot;News.groups.proposals&quot;&gt;news.groups.proposals&lt;/a&gt; *** RL generated a new key, added UIDs for ngp-approval-key@big-8.org and ngp-approval-key@ngp.big-8.org, signed new key with the old key, and published the new key on a key server. Still to do: update our STUMP instance to sign posts with both keys (for the next six months at...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Present: TM, RL, MM&lt;br /&gt;
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* Administration&lt;br /&gt;
** {{news|comp.lang.asm.x86}}&lt;br /&gt;
*** RL has resumed liaising with Terje regarding setting up a moderation system.&lt;br /&gt;
** New signing key for [[news.groups.proposals]]&lt;br /&gt;
*** RL generated a new key, added UIDs for ngp-approval-key@big-8.org and ngp-approval-key@ngp.big-8.org, signed new key with the old key, and published the new key on a key server. Still to do: update our STUMP instance to sign posts with both keys (for the next six months at least), add the new key to the [[news.groups.proposals]] wiki page, and announce the changeover on {{news|news.groups.proposals}}.  We can stop signing with the old key after six months.&lt;br /&gt;
** {{news|rec.humor.funny}}: No further communication with Brad Templeton.&lt;br /&gt;
** {{news|comp.binaries.cbm}}: RL pinged the prospective moderator on 2025-06-20.&lt;br /&gt;
** {{news|rec.arts.anime.creative}}: RL pinged the prospective moderator on 2025-06-20.&lt;br /&gt;
** {{news|soc.sexuality.general}} (non-functioning moderated group): TM is still in correspondence with two of the former moderators.&lt;br /&gt;
** {{news|soc.culture.jewish.moderated}} (non-functioning moderated group): No further communication from the former moderator and their nominee.  Agreed that TM would ping them again, and defer the LCC until mid-July.&lt;br /&gt;
** {{news|comp.sys.wearables}}: On 2025-06-20 RL pinged Greg Pfeil for an update on the moderation infrastructure.  In any case, agreed to wait several more months for further action.&lt;br /&gt;
** {{news|comp.protocols.dns.bind}}: On 2025-05-02 MM pinged Dan Mahoney for an update on the mail-to-news gateway. No response yet.  In any case, agreed to wait several more months for further action.&lt;br /&gt;
** Unused comp.unix.* groups: MM to draft an RFD for {{news|comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc}}, {{news|comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc}}, {{news|comp.unix.sys5.misc}}, {{news|comp.unix.sys5.r4}}, and {{news|comp.unix.user-friendly}}.&lt;br /&gt;
* Infrastructure&lt;br /&gt;
** Decommissioning of the mail.big-8.org domain and of Mail-in-a-Box, Nextcloud, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
*** JE responded that he&amp;#039;s OK with our plans to decommission Nextcloud.  TM to back up or migrate any useful files.&lt;br /&gt;
*** MM reported that Mail-in-a-Box apparently just uses a script to install and configure the relevant Ubuntu packages; if we remove this script then the packages should remain.  TM noted that Mail-in-a-Box seems to handle our TLS certificate renewal and that we might need to replace this with Certbot.  MM to continue to investigate the decommissioning procedure.&lt;br /&gt;
* Software/funding&lt;br /&gt;
** TM: No update yet on GPG signing best practices on Savannah&lt;br /&gt;
** Thunderbird 128 contact deferred given Julien&amp;#039;s comments on INN.&lt;br /&gt;
** TM still to respond to Julien.&lt;br /&gt;
** OTF IFF/NGI0/[https://www.sovereigntechfund.de/ Sovereign Tech Fund]: no further updates&lt;br /&gt;
** JE approved one of RL&amp;#039;s OpenCollective expense claims; RL to remind him about the other one.  JE and RL are in the process of signing and submitting a form to transfer the web hosting account from JE to RL.&lt;br /&gt;
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